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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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A question for those with Supercabs

A question for those with Supercabs, please. I have seen posts referring to power rear door windows. I have seen a post referring to someone having found manual window mechanisms inside a non-power rear panel, everything except the crank itself.
I know there is no window lowering mechanism inside the Reg cab.

This comes up because I have a 'rear door power window' 'kit' for 2004 trucks that already have front power windows, but have non power, i.e. mechanical window rear doors, and I'm trying to find out what trucks came with mechanical rear windows, but power front... If any.
Any help would be great
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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My 04 Lariat SCAB has power windows front and back.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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I may be off base but I think all supercabs have power windows in the back
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Well, I haven't seen all supercabs yet, but I have seen some without power windows anywhere. Any reader there have a Supercab without power windows?
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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I bought a 2005 stx supercab without power windows. the xlt had power windows front and back. but the one i bought im pretty sure the rear windows are solid glass.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Thanks that's what I'm trying to determine. On a post in one of the forums a guy had a supercab with 'fixed' rear windows. Upon pulling the panels to put in speakers he found the fixed glass was actually lowerable (if that's a word). It had all the mechanism to work with a crank, but they hadn't put in a crank or cut holes in the doorskin. Other posts have mentioned that they had power windows in front, but fixed in back. I am trying to determine if the 'fixed' in the Supercab is really fixed, and if the one with the 'crankless' system was a fluke. The reg cab is for sure fixed. different kind of mounting.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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I was about to ask this same question, since I came back from my dealer over the weekend. their day off, so I just windowshopped. I looked at a STX and could not figure it out myself. I put my hand up against the rear glass, and could slightly move it up and down. There are no cranks though, what gives??
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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I have an "05" STX SCab 4X4, and the rear windows don't roll down. If it's true that the hardware is in there, I'll be looking for the cranks and cut the holes myself. Seems silly to have everything there and not put the hand cranks on. Are they getting that hard up to save a penny?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Hi kato14709, I take it your front windows are not power?
I'm trying to find someone who has power fronts, and non power rears.
Sounds strange, but I have a 'kit' to add power to the rears, assuming you already have power on the front.. and I'm curious if any model actually came that way.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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That's correct that I don't have power windows. I wonder if the ones with manual windows in the front like mine have the guts in the rear doors? I might just have to tale a look.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Two screws on the bottom and the strongest clips around the edge I have ever encountered in an interior. I pulled my panels to put speakers in the little doors.
factory speakers are only rated at 25 watt, and sound like it...

So no one has power front windows, but not power rear on a Supercab?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Excuse me i meant xlts and lariats.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Well i removed the panels on my rear doors and what i have found is that the window is not a solid window but in factif a person went out and bought the tracks and the mechanisms they could have roll down rear windows. the mechanisms are not there currently all they did is install the same window as in those trucks with roll down windows but the just locked it in place and didnt install anything to allow you to roll them down
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Hi 2nd_wnd, Thanks for the info.
So your window has no mechanism for lowering? But it does have tracks that the window would drop down into?
I'm begining to think it's almost random on the STX etc. class of trucks. Some have splined shafts, covered by the panel, that could be used to lower the rear windows.
And some are like yours don't have the cables or splinedshaft and thus would need a complete window lowering system like a1electric sells.

So it would seem that if you have a Supercab without power rear windows, you would be able to add power rear windows either cheaply, or not cheaply, but you can't tell without pulling a panel.
Darn.
I think I have a leftover 4 door switch panel and a kit for lowering rear windows.
Oh well, E-bay gets some more leftovers.

Thanks all who replied. This forum is great, because of great users.
Chris
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Chris, You are right, there is no "fixed rear glass" on the stx/xl/work models. It is cheaper to install a mechanical mechanism and a stop to hold the window up than it is to have one door assembly for the moveable window and one door assembly for the fixed glass. When I say door assembly I mean the sheetmetal inner and outer panels. Not only is it cheaper, it reduces complexity in the plant. I looked into this for my brother a while back. I think the manual mechanism (where the crank would attach) is behind the arm rest, which means the crank would have to be really long and it would not sit flush on a flat part of the trim panel. I doubt the manual mechanism is able to withstand several uses because they won't put too much into an item that is used one time and locked into place. Perhaps 2nd_wnd can confirm the mechanism placement with regard to the trim panel.

As far as adding the retractors and motor, I am sure it is expensive but you can unbolt the old and bolt in the new. Should be pretty easy. I would check to see if the power wiring is already available. I looked into the different wiring bundles going to the back door and could only find one. It had a branch near the speaker wiring that had a connector for the power window.

The last thing I looked at was the trim panels and swiches. The trucks with the power rear windows have different trim and (if I remember correctly) it was assembled differently so you couldn''t just remove one piece and replace it with the armrest with the switch in it. I am pretty sure you would have to wire your own switch and install it in the trim panel.

It was a while ago, but hope this helps.
 
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