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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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66 brake light puzzle

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I am looking for non-working brake light suggestions. I have replaced the master cylinder, brake light switch, fuse, and light bulbs. I have working tail
lights and turn signals. Any sugestions?
Thanks, James Q
 
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Have you tried to jump the brake light switxch? Take the 2 wires off it and connect together. They should light up. if so, the brake light switch is bad. If not, there's a break in the wires somewhere or the signal light switch under the steering wheel is bad. They route the brake lights thru this for some reason. Test the B/light sw. wires with a test light, you should have power in one of the 2 wires.

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Hi Barry,
I did jump the wires on the switch and did not get any lights. The turn signals work.
Does this eliminate the switch under the steering wheel?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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I'd trace back the wires to see where the power is supplied. The signal light switch can be a culprit. I sold alot of those back in the 70's.

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Are you checking the lights with your keys in the on position? The brake lights do not work unless the keys are on, or if the engine is running.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Been some time since worked on my 65 brake system. Wonder if can test circuit by removing the 2 wires from the brake switch, assuming pressure type, and while one presses brake pedal can someone test across the switch. Since mentioned also replacing M/C wonder if air pocket not allowing required pressure to activate switch. At least determine if switch is faulty and start from there.

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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I made a litlle drawing for future reference if I ever needed it, if My drawing is incorrect please let me know I would hate to have led someone astray. anyway I had the same problem and it was my connections under the bed back by the rearend. there should be 3 wires which split into 4 (2 to each side) mine were all cracked and not connecting good. once I replaced all of them it all works flawless. you might try messing with this area.Brake diagram between axle and bumper
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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Dave, One of the wires should be hot with the ignition switch turned on. You gotta have that before you can go any further.

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I ran into this recently and it was a bad ground at the rear of the truck in addition to a poor connection at the fuse box. A bad ground can cause all sorts of strange symptoms!!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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My brake lights work even with the switch off. The air void in the Master Cylinder was a real pain in the A** for me. Dave, where were you when I was slashing my wrists over this problem. Redid the whole wiring harness from the bed back without success, then a very wise man suggested I try to bleed fluid at the switch. BINGO!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Hello all,
Thanks for the suggestions! Voodoosurfer, I could not open the link you posted. The air pocket below the switch sounds like a possibility as well. Where is the ground strap at the rear of the truck?
Thanks again, James Q
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Hello again,
I was able to open Voodoosurfers' link on a later try.
Thanks, James Q
 
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Behind the rear lamps you'll see a ground wire going to the body. Clean where they attach and also make up a ground wire to connect to the frame. It won't hurt to do this even if it's not the problem.

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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Hello Barry,
I looked under my truck and all I see is the rear light harnesses. I don't see any grounds at all. Could I ground from the lamp assemblies to the frame? This is a stepside truck. Also, do my working turn signals rule out the switch under the steering wheel being bad?
Thanks for all your help, James Q
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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No it doesn't rule out it being bad. Take the tail lamps off the brackets and clean where they mount. Make sure they're nor rusty inside. You may have to hook a ground from the body to frame. Did you try bleeding the air out at the master cyl?

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