I installed the CrimeStopper 2016 over the weekend... RS, turbo timer, lcd etc... all for under 150 (needed a couple of relays). So far, no worries... we will see how it goes over the next few weeks... the '02 Glow plug light is done based on databus so there wasnt a wire I could tap into reliably... good thing is alarm has a delay feature such that I set it to delay 20 secs to start and good to go... I love it though, this morning was freezing, so I RS'd it, and got into a warm truck 10 minutes later! woohhooo!! The only problem I had on install is getting the darned parking lights to flash... I am wondering if I need to put a relay on it... I need to check the voltage because I believe it is 12+ on the park and the alarm only pushes 10v... hmmmm

 

Two shops qouted $700.00 for the Python 881XP. They both say the Clifford and Python are similar with the exception of the Clifford a little higher in price. I want the two LED's on the front doors by the lock plunger,magnetic switch on the tailgate, and another small siren inside the cab, that brought the price to $812.00. The hardest thing on the alarm per the installer was locating the brain module up behind the gauges. Gonna do a little more info gathering before I buy one.

 

Hey, Black88, who put yours in? Did you have it done in the South Bay?

 

Picnic,

Does your truck have the "autolamp" feature, and if so do you leave it turned on? I installed Crimestopper remote start (mdl RS-999) last week and have found that if the autolamp feature is left on, then the parking lights don't always respond correctly. If I leave the headlight switch OFF, then the parking lights flash as per the remote start instructions.

I also tapped into the "brown" parking lamp wire near the back of the power distribution panel (fuse box) because it was easier to find there.

By the way, I got my Crimestopper two-way FM remote starter off of ebay for 89.95 and installed it myself. Biggest problem is contorting my body and bi-focals enough to work under the dash and all of those places you need to get to....

 

What ever you do, make sure the installation shop is qualified. I paid for a "professional" installation and got a hacked in job. I luckily know a lot about electronics so I was able to completely rewire the whole thing correctly and to different spots so it isn't easily bypassed by a thief. Zip tieing the siren to your wiring harness and winding electrical tape around the rats nest of wires they don't cut to length is not in my opinion a "pro" job... the system I had installed I do like otherwise. I don't advertise the kind I have though. Sorry.
I got mine more for the remote start and the keyless entry. Remember, if a thief wants your truck all they have to do is load in on a flat bed in a couple minutes or less. Alarms are to keep honest people honest.

 

No, Im still looking at all the options right now. I was thinking of going to Best Buy though.
I know what you mean on the hack job, Ive had a few. Im not to concerened with someone stealing the truck, but you are right a flatbed will do the trick. Im just basicly looking for the remote start like you were.

 

DSWeger,
Yeah, mine does have the autolamp feature, I will have to give this a shot.. the other thing I noticed is that the alarm has a jumper for setting the parking light as either positive or ground.. I will attempt a swap on this as well. 89.99! did you get the 2011 or the 2016?? I purchased the 2016fm for 129 on ebay... then got the relays etc... so it ended up costing me over 140 installed (of course, I did the install, I enjoy doing this stuff)... The one thing I was quite pleased about was not having to get the pulse timer relay since the Crimestoppers have the built in timer functions... I wish Ford would have made that stupid wait to start light on the diesel accessible instead of using the databus.

 

The other thing that needs to be considered on these installs is if you will be towing something... if so, you will also be powering up the trailer lights which could increase the 10V to 12V and cause a problem with the alarm, so adding a relay to the parking lights may not be a bad idea anyhow...

 

Picnic,

My system is RS-999 which is the equivalent to the 2016 WITHOUT the security system. I chose not to worry about the security system, although for only a couple dollars more and a few more wires under the dash, maybe I made a poor decision.

If your truck has the 7.3, I was under the impression that you have a usable "wait to start" signal, if not in the dash, then under the hood. However, I did not research that issue in depth for a 2002. On my truck I used the 10 second delay option and it has worked flawlessly. I presume you wired in the Turbo Idle Down timer? If so, are you aware it can be used two different ways? One mode gives you the "Turbo Timer" option of up to 5 minutes ( my holding the brake pedal down while pressing the button). The other method is what they describe in the manual as "Idle Down" mode or "Quick Stop" mode. Simply press the turbo button WITHOUT holding the brake pedal down and the system will respond as if you did a remote start and allow the motor to run for as long as your normal programmed start sequence. (default 24 minutes) Very useful for making short trips into a store, or the post office, or wherever when you'd like to leave the motor run and you just can't guarantee you'll be back out in less than 5 minutes.

As for the towing issue, if you have the factory trailer wiring, I believe that the trailer lamp circuits are fed from their own fuses and relays. The brown wire I connected up to appeared to me to drive a relay, not the parking lamps directly.

All in all, I am very happy with the Crimestopper system. The range is more like 600 feet instead of the 1000 they claim, but still that's good enough for me.

 

I'm not sure about the relays, but the parking lights are definitely on a separate circuit from the trailer light block. They actually set it up the right way from the factory. I had a broken trailer light ground out and pop a fuse. The parking lights of the truck didn't go out. Only the trailer.
The good alarms also do have a wait to start feature for the diesels. I think you tap into the light in the dash.

 

You can not tap into the "wait to start" light on the 2002 and newer Superduties. The "light" in the dash is turned on by a digital command on the data bus to the instrument cluster. The "light" is actually an LED curcuit operated at 5 volts (so I've been told). On the 6.0 motors, the Glowplug Control Module controls power to each of the glowplugs individually and is independent of the "wait to start" signal. The ECM looks at various parameters ( air temp, oil temp, etc.) to determine how long the "wait to start" indicator should be on and the GCM cycles the glowplugs as required for up to two minutes after the ignition is turned on.

I specifically bought a remote starter with the capabilities to monitor the "wait to start" light. Then after getting deep into the wiring diagrams, I find out it is not feasible on the 6.0 motors.

Nothing is simple anymore....!!!

 

.....on a diesel. Ha ha, just playin'..

 

Well that's kind of lame... sorry to hear that.

 

I have a compustar 2wss-as and love it. The range is almost 6000ft (had to test it) plus it has all the features. The guy that did the install loves these systems and switched from selling the vipers to the compustar systems.

 

Sandpic, Where did you get your compustar installed? They are telling me to go to PA, but I'd rather find a dealer in NJ.

Thanks
Taz