My Little Project
The 44's are nearly bald, and I have a few tire questions as a result. There are no trails around here, but the entire state makes for a pretty decent mud rink. I am wanting the best mudders that I can get, 44 or preferably 49". At the same time, however, I am interested in mileage. I was thinking of 49" iroks (granted, not the best mudders, but big is always better
), but since I have read about how they suck on the street, I have changed my mind. How well would 44" boggers wear? I am planning on keeping these bald swampers on for street use, but I am still 20 some miles each way from the nearest mud rink which I would have to run the boggers on and I don't want them to wear too fast when I am looking at $500 a tire. Is there a tire nearly as good as boggers in the mud, but wear better on the street?The truck is dead on the 54" headlight limit with the bald 44's (basically 41's). If I put new 44's, or 49's, I will be over the limit. Will just little lights in the bumper work, or are they picky on what they consider a headlight? If they make you cover the other lights, does that also include my lightrack?
Other than bumper height which is alright for indiana, are there any other regulations that I need to check on? The guy who built the truck said it was prefectly legal, but I rather be safe than impounded.
I am curious on the axles. I believe these are a dana 60 and 70, what numbers do I need to check? I read something about dana 60's breaking. Is this a commonplace? I am putting out a little over 600HP, but I figured that these one some of the best (stock) axles you could get. Also, the lift was completely custom according to the builder. I thought it was a kit as it looks pretty professional. Does anyone see any obvious problems?
I have also read about these trucks being real hard to stop. This one stops pretty good I thought, but it got me curious. How much would a 4 wheel disc brake conversion be? I never seen what people listed as the cause of the hard stops, but I am guessing that it has something to do with the drum brakes.
My power steering gearbox is leaking and the gears are worn. I have had no luck finding one that mounts to the frame as this one does. Does anyone know where I can find one? I have heard some things about converting it over to where the gearbox is inline with the rod that the later years came out with. Is this really the way to go? I figured that bolted to the frame it would be a little sturdier given the type of truck this now is.
Also, I don't have a drop pitman arm and it is causing a bind in the steering. I was told hijackers sells them, but are there any better/cheaper places?
On the steering topic, the steering is completely stock except for a longer and jointed rod to make up for the body lift and stabilizers. Is there anything else that needs to be done to the steering?
Thanks for your help. This is the first lifted truck I have owned, so I am a little clueless. On that note, does anyone have anything that can help my 3mpg problem
?For some reason I can't post links to pics, which is utterly strange for a forum to have those rules. There goes have my suspension questions.
I don't get the whole gallery thing. I have them in the gallery but they still give the same error even when using the forum codes thing.
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on edit LOOSE them blocks that is dangerous even with the ladder bars
different trucks had different axles... call up your nearest Ford dealership and give them your VIN number (if the truck has stock drivetrain and all) and they can tell you exactly whats in your trucks. D60 rears are very prone to breaking when you get into the taller meats and a heavy foot with a healthy motor in the middle! D60 front is uaully pretty strong although if you upgrade a D60 they can be as strong or stronger than a rockwell (a figure of speech more than anything)
i hate to tell you this but stacked blocks is not professional! that is the worst thing i have seen on this truck.
as for the brakes i'd check the system out first... a lot of the times if you have 1 tons under your truck then normally there is little concern about stopping capabilities. you can do a 4 wheel disc conversion which would really make stopping less of a chore but they are ually pretty pricey!
Jeff's bronco graveyard should have what you are looking for in regards to your steering woes http://broncograveyard.com/products/cat
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I thought that blocks was the only way to lift trucks real high, and didn't even know there was any other way. Last year this truck was jumping cars at the state fair grounds without a single problem
. The shackes have already been flipped. What is recommended to keep the same lift height? There is 10" of blocks, all the blocks are welded together.I haven't done anything with this truck yet because of the steering problem, but I don't want any problems, so please tell/link me to what I need. It is a 10" suspension and 4" body. I can't go any smaller on the suspension, but I am willing to go bigger (as always
).This is partially a show truck (when it is done) and partially a mudding truck. Considering its size and power, I want to stick with a big mudding tire. The tire problem has taken a back seat at the moment to the suspension problem I didn't know I had. Since the iroks aren't as good as the boggers at mudding, I will probably stick with those. I really rather not replace the axles with rockwells for money/time/experience reasons, and if they are a D70/D60 combo, I would figure that would be pretty decent, wouldn't it? If I do have D60 rears, what would I need to do to "bulletproof" that axle?
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You need to to a crossover suspension with those tires and lift. Its as simple as that. Lots of information in here a search away. That will help out your steering woes majorly.
Like the guys said, lose the 10" blocks. Especially if your "jumping" the truck. Its just a matter of time...
Upgrade to a dana 70 (easy to find) Ford 10.25, or rockwells or something similar. For the suspension problems you can always get a bigger leaf (more arch, but lots of $$$) spring, or you can make/have made longer shackles/hangers as well, which is what i would have done as its fairly cheap and easy to do (if you can lay a good solid strong bead).
but the chromoly shafts are amazingly strong
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The Boggers and Iroks have a very similar tread rubber compound...very soft. You will not get too many miles out of either tire while driving on the street. I've got 49's and also have quite a bit of experience with Boggers, although I've never brought myself to buy a set. If you're looking for good highway/mud tires, I suggest Ground Hawgs. Although they're rough and hard to balance, I have successfully put 17K on a set (which I still have, BTW) and all but one still look BRAND NEW (it's a long story, so I won't bore you with it). My 49's have roughly 1100 miles and they are doing great, although they are in need of a balance (I didn't get lucky like fishy).
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. I will ask him about that later this week when I see him again.I read somewhere about getting swampers retreaded. Is this safe? If it is cheap enough, it may be a good idea for me so I can have a decent street tire without much cost.
I truthfully haven't seen a truck like the above before. All I have seen is trucks with blocks, so this is all new to me. What is unsafe about them?
I have looked at a few other 75's, and something is wrong with the front suspension. It appears that it has a 76/77 setup. I will take a pic and post it next time around.
Last edited by Brad4321; Feb 7, 2005 at 05:23 PM.
I'd stick with the Swampers. You want mileage and mud performance and they will get much better mileage than a bogger but still do great in the mud.
The springs don't have to be flush with the perch. Many of these trucks came with a 3.5 block from the factory. Whats unsafe about yours is the stacked blocks and the sheer height of them. Thats alot of leverage. You can get rid of this by 1)shackle flip 2)drop hangers 3) lift springs or any combination thereof.
Measure the circumference of your rear axle tube. If its anything less than 3.5 its probably just a 60. Hope this helped. Whats been done to the engine to net 600hp by the way?



