My Little Project
I am guessing that there just isn't much talent in the area. This truck isn't that big really, yet it is the largest in the area by a good 6".
On the special springs, how much do these things usually run (and where can I find them?)? It has 1 ton springs with overloads now.
Does using drop hangers affect the twisting of the rear end any? Right now, the rear end is completely solid, even when burning out (a complete accident, but still somewhat funny
). For some reason, I get the idea that dropping the hangers down will cause it to twist more. Also, would I be able to reuse the stabilizer bars I currently have (and are they any good)?I read some on the crossover steering. I found a kit for a whopping $750. There is a drag link/pitman arm problem on this. However, if I just get a drop pitman arm (and thus take the tension off of the drag link), would that help the steering? I would like to do everything in the kit eventually, including moving the tierods up top, but that is out of my front end budget range at the moment.
I just did some looking at your truck. Are you using special springs in the rear? It looks that your shackle isn't that big for making an 18" lift all by itself. What is that thing you welded the shackles too in the back? What you have there looks good, a lot better than what I have seen around the net. I wouldn't mind copying yours if I knew exactly what you did. How did you get away with not using the stabilizer rack thing on the axle?
In the front of your truck it looks like you have a piece of steel dropping down from the frame that your front shackles are welded to. Is that all you did in the front, minus the crossover steering? I haven't paid any attention, but I can bet that I have blocks in the front also.
Last edited by Brad4321; Feb 7, 2005 at 07:36 PM.
A shackle flip and dropped hangers will be far more stable then the blocks, as the twisting force is multiplied by the blocks, where as drop brackets distribute the force better because they twisting force isn't multiplied as much. And these can be built very strong, and there is around a half the force on the dropped bracket when compared to the lift blocks. You will probably have to make these yourself or have a shop do it as well, as i don't think there are many places that would sell these.
As for the springs i'm not to sure on the price, but maybe Ivan can chime in on how much his cost him.
Go to google and do a search for "scary steering" (the website you're looking for will be one of the first, with "taco" somewhere in the URL). If you have dial-up, some of the pics will take a while. But navigate the scary suspension and steering pictures (lower left of homepage) and you'll get a feel of what NOT to do. Plenty of lift blocks and steering setups that should be 'crossover'.
You mentioned rigid rear end...yeah, it should be. Ladder bars that move in an arc and leaf springs that basically move straight up and down. You won't have much travel at all. I do agree that you don't notice the leverage effect on your rear axle....but lose one of those ladder bars and I guarantee you'll be separating the slip joint on your rear driveshaft (been there, done that). Anyhoo, give that website a looksee.
Cody
EDIT: Foul language, not safe for kids or work.
Last edited by cleatus12r; Feb 7, 2005 at 08:31 PM.
You've got a D44HD in the front (external hubs).
My money says a D60HD in the rear (can't tell in pics, but will have extra gusset ribs across centersection).
Cody
Now, if it IS a 428scj that is a RARE find. Very cool. You are right in that its worth coin. Something must be wrong with your (carb?) if your only getting 3mpg though. I don't care what the motor is.
He mentioned the lead substitute not only for the valve seats, but because the lead substitutes (at least the old ones) raised the octane value. If thats the scj your at @ 10.5:1 compression. The reference to damaging your pistons was regarding detonation due to too much compression for low octane gas.
My springs are just off an F-350. I did my lift ala' the original Bigfoots, using drop hangers for the springs rather than stacked blocks are "banana" springs. I fabricated all my own stuff so I can't tell you where to buy it. I do know that Sky Manufacturing makes at least your rear shackle flip and the have good stuff. I think Mustang covered the others suspension stuff. You have a nice looking Ford and it shouldn't take too much to get it whipped into shape. You'll need to retain your rear ladder bars with a high hp motor...although you should ditch the rigid ones you have now. Rather, some using a slip joint (such as I make and use...offroad design also sells them but wants $1100) or the more common type that uses a shackle design (sams offroad sells them) will keep your axle wrap under control but allow articulation. Hope all this helped and keep us posted about what you find out about your rig.
I don't know why he didn't do that to the back.
I got the pics from him when he built it (and the pics from which he then buried to up past the bumpers). I didn't know he wrecked it right after he built it, which is why the front end is odd for a 75. It is actually a 78 front steering, his reasoning was to do away with the power assist. When I get some of them scanned I will post them.
I don't think this is nearly as bad as some of the stuff posted on that site. Once I get the steering fixed and the truck drivable, I will then work on the rear axle. I am not sure what kind of shafts are on the rear axle (I will look when I do the rear end), but since it is 35 spline, I feel decent about it. If I can find one cheap enough, I will swap it out. I suppose that since it is the low pinion front axle I should replace it.
What is utterly amazing is that the guy who built this truck (not the kid, even more clueless than me, who I got it off of) builds these trucks as a career. He says that he has 12K in this truck, which is probably pretty close since he had to replace the doghouse and cab when he wrecked it, along with the rebuild of the 428, tires, and everything else. He has some pretty neat mudding pics which I may upload for fun.
Here I thought you couldn't get this truck stuck
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I'm running a Holley 950hp (the race model) double pumper. I get a solid 6mpg, you should be able to get at least that.
Its crazy how many guys are building stuff "professionally" thats not up the standards of some people who builds stuff in their backyard. With all the fab shows currently I bet you'll see even more hacks starting up a fabrication business. Speaking of that, I plan on running one on the side when I get my shop
Anything can get stuck. Trust me
Also, was it ever explained to you why you have no front shackles? You have brackets welded directly to your frame that your spring connects to...crazy stuff.
Finally, does your intake manifold extend part way beneath your valve covers, or does your intake manifold set between your valve covers?
That engine sounds hella sweet. Have you ever looking into NOS for it? You could add a 400 shot and have a 1000 horsepower engine. That would be enough to spin those 49's FAST with your 4.10 gears. You could get through ANY mudpit!


