I agree with most of what Musclecar_Fan said, but:
A GT does not have the same engine as a F150, or and other Ford for that matter.
It is the only mod engine (that I am aware of) that has a alloy block, alloy heads, it also runs DOHC with 4V per cylinder (previously available on the Navigator and Cobra R, and still running on the Australian Falcon).
If a GT ain't special, I don't know what is, I still have a kidney on e-bay for trade on one.

As for using our engine, it wouldn't be to hard, we use the truck (cast iron) short block, the Old Cobra R heads, we manufacture our own cams (as mentioned previously there are 2 different power outputs of this engine, each runs a different cam).
Valves are from a Cobra R.
We also manufacture our own inlet and exhaust manifolds.
We also designed our own pistons, to provide a 10.5 Compression ratio (our premium is 95-98RON)
The only problem, in Naturally aspirated form, it may not be as suited to a heavier truck.
It doens't really get on "song" until it hits 3500rpm.
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link...&parent_id=171

Ford Australia has always had a large performance car appetite equal to, or greater than Ford US, and subsequently when a high performance V8 isn't available off the shelf, they have to creat one, otherwise suffer the consequences - loose market share.
"Our" 351C's came with 370-390hp from the factory - the Falcon Phase III GTHO's were the fastest 4 door sedan in the world for around 8 years (until the Merc 450SEL 6.9)
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=4.70

When a 4V 5.4 wasn't available, and the only V8 that could fit in a car was the 302 (our 302's made 300hp BTW), Ford Australia made a factory stroker of the 302, giving it 5.6l, and over 330hp.
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=4.79

I think a Supercharged 3V or 4V in a F150 would be a stormer.
If Ford don't put SOMETHING in thier line up shortly, they will struggle.

 

The GT-40 is very special. But it would be alot more special, and valuable if it had a big N/A motor in it. (I know I am harping on the N/A thing) How do you think Viper enthusiasts and owners would react if Dodge took an average 5.7 Hemi, slapped a blower on it, and modified it a little bit, then used it in the Vipers instead of the current V10? It wouldn't go very well at all. The Viper would lose all of its admiration. If there was a big V10 or V12 under the hood of that Gt I think it would be alot more sought after, and special. It would also be worth more down the road.


Best as always.

 

I think a Big block NA V8 engine (in tune with the original Mk II, or Mk IV originals) would be the best in a GT - it would suit the cars character the most.
I think it is going to be worth a fair bit down the road irrespective of engine type.

I wonder, does anyone know what the supercharged Shelby GT350's are worth in comparison to the GT500?

The supercharger GT350 was the better car of the 2, but I don't think it had the "mystique" of the GT500.

I don't know about the Viper questions, the only way would be to try it...

I personally prefer NA, mainly for improved throttle response, but todays engines with super or turbochargers are capable of giving good throttle response with more power, and without the downside of having a huge engine over the front, messing around with the weight distribution.

 

Only 13k where built from 1965 to 1970. Roughly split down the middle between GT 350 and GT 500. The 500 was not introduced until 1967.

I have never been able to find the production numbers for the super charged model as it was an option. The best knowledge I have is from my mustand shop that I have done engine builds through. I almost bought a basket case from them for 20k but all the numbers matched and all the important parts where there. Biggest problem other than at the time I would of had to take a loan out against the house is there was no documentation.

According to there book only 11 where known to exist. I can believe that number because it was almost a $600 dollar option and that is alot for a car that just cost of 4,000. Anyway my guess is it would sell much more that your run of the mill GT500's. One exception to that is there are 427 side oilers out there in the GT500's. This was a dealer install item for awhile. Now one of those would be worth alot.

 

AG4.0 You found the latest. Work continues but I do not see production started until a couple of diesels bothV6 and V8 are available and affordable in the F150 line. The F super duty runs at about 75 % diesel at this time. I believe that the heavier F series will come in above 10,000 Gvw inorder to bypass the new rules. The 6.2 is nice but I believe a 5.5 or something around that size makes more sense for the average truck. The plans for Global warming gases basically force a direction some may not like but performance will be a PRIVLEDGE for those who have the means and are willing to pay, inorder too play. For the rest it means a saner more realistic approach too transporting ourselves around.
I like fast cars, but who can afford it today? A young guy with a speeding ticket pays crazy insurance rates. The cost of fuel is and will continue to be crazy, especially with the Chinese buying up oil companies both in this country ( UNOCAL) and abroad.
I do not believe we are going back to Vegas and Pintos but we neede a fundamental change. Fuel controls the price of everything we buy, so there is a definte need to try and bring demand inline with supply. Sorry for the long winded answer AG4.0

 

Ford developed this supercharged internal combustion engine that ran on hydrogen gas, and had more power than a stock focus engine. I watched this on discovery, and it looked pretty cool. It wasnt your boring hydrogen fuel cell, that makes electrical energy. Solutions like bio-diesel and such fuels have a huge potential, becuase we get the best of both worlds. Fuel efficiency, almost zero emissions, and all the fun we want. I dont see why all the japanese hybrid vehicles have to be so small, useless and ugly as hell. This global warming thing has been blown waaayyy out of proportion IMO. Fuel prices for you americans should not be a huge problem, I mean dont get me wrong, I know its more than you are used to paying, but up here in Canada we are paying about 90 cents/litre. Thats in the area of about $3.20 or so factor in conversion rates in the dollar, and we are still almost a dollar more a gallon than you.

As for a big V8 option, it would be nice, for bragging rights, but I still want to see a V6 diesel in the F-150 before the Hurricane. The first manufacturer to do that will hit the jackpot IMO. Ford could easily go over the 1 million mark when this happens.

BigF350- I watched a special on the making of the new GT40, and they said it came from a base 5.4 similar to the truck engines. I cant remember it all, so if I'm wrong just let me know. The motor you described sounded totally different.

 

The base block design is the same, but it is completely different.
All alloy block, 4V per cylinder, DOHC.
Its origins are from a F150, but thats about it.
Heck the viper motor started as a truck motor.

 

That's along the llines that I was thinking.
Man you Aussies get all the fun. Those straight 6 engines sound incredibly awesome. i wich we had them here.

 

They get the cool cars also

 

Speaking of Aussie cars .... and I know this is off topic, but I'm going to toss the rumor out anyway.

The Ford mechanic I talked with about the Hurricane engine also stated that there are rumors that Ford is going to bring the Falcon from Australia to the US. Now I think that would be pretty snazzy, but we still have to deal with the stupid environmental laws here, that Australia doesn't.... but probably eventually will. If you haven't checked out the Au Ford site, you should. They have some good looking and powerful Fords down under. My compliments to the Aussies...and Ford Australia.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a variation of the Falcon in Australia.
I very much doubt that you will see our Falcon.
It will most likely be manufactured in the US, but engineered in Australia.
Our manufacturing plants here are currently at capacity, and unless they spend big $$$ to improve areas they will remain that way.
Although I am just speculating .

The Falcon is prehaps the last Ford car in the world to have its own unique frame, engine AND transmission (i.e. not shared with another vehicle in the Ford empire), and therefore it would be difficult to manufacture it in the same form in the US.
I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a replacement for the Crown Vic, as much as I like that car, few would argue that it is dated.

With emissions, we are currently about 2 years behind you guys, but by 2009 we will be exactly the same.
We do have a problem with fuel however, all Falcons are optimised on 95RON, and designed to run on a minimum of 91RON (our regular).
That can be calibrated around however.

And if you guys thought you were dissapointed when the Hurricane news came out, think about us.
The Hurricane would have made it into the Falcon, and if you liked the idea of a storming 6.2l V8 in a truck, how about the same engine in a RWD sedan???

I would be lining up at the stealership already...

 

I'm sure the 6.2 is still goin to be released. Ford does this, they stir the pot. Blue oval news was runnin off of rumor I heard anyways. We will have to wait.

 

We haven't heard much on this lately.
Anyone got any new news to offer?

 

I haven't seen anything on this either. Maybe they're going to sneak it to market, so that the competion doesn't have a chance to counter it right away. We can hope, right?

 

I'm hoping......Maybe that is their tactic?