Does anyone know anything about Kendall motor oils? I heard good things in the past about these oils. They have a5w20,and 5w30 semi,and full synthetics. Where can I get the full analysis on this or any other oil?

 

Kendall , Amalie were products of Witco chemical, then they were sold. Who owns and
refines the Kendall oils now I don't know. I do know I used Amalie and Kendall oils for
years, I haven't heard anything about Amalie.

 

Kendall is a Conoco-Phillips brand now. There is a link on ConocoPhillips web page.

 

Bubba, you are correct. Where can I get the full analysis on the oil?

 

Here is a link to the page with the spec sheets:
http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/Products/MotorOils.htm

 

FWIW:

I use their Nitro 70 as an assembly oil on piston skirts, rings, and valve stems. I also use 1/2 quart as an additive during cam break-in. 15 TBN and .249% zinc.

 

That Nitro 70 is something else now . What an additive pack !

Hmmmmm , what SM GF-4 needs some spiking with it ?

Or maybe , what GF-4 oil don't need some spiking ?

Speaking of ....... that Motorcraft sure has a de-tuned additive pack these days . My opinion is it can be beat in cost vs performance . It's using good base oils though , even the 10w-40 .

 

Hrm, I hadn't thought of using it as a regular additive. I wonder what Flash would think about that?

 

Rusty, I use Redline as an additive all the time on my "other" vehicles. One qt of Redline has more moly than eight qts of Chevron Supreme. My Bronco loves the Redline as an additive as the 302 is quiet and runs like a swiss watch. The "others" like it too. One of these days when I change vocations and have to buy oil for my Triton, it will also get some Redline additive. But I am not a fan of Zinc.

 

The main problem with zinc is it messes up the catalytic converters. Moly, well in gear lubes it works, for some other applications I'm not so sure.

 

So the Redline add pack doesn't "clash" with the other oil additives? Isn't that one of the concerns about mixing and matching oil brands?

 

kotzy, the moly used in grease is the old molybdenum disulfide. It's the old black microscopic crystal that everybody thought was the magic bullet for lubes back in the fifties and sixties. Never could get it to stay suspended or small enough in size to not be filtered out. The moly I speak of is in the form of molybdenum trialkydithocarbamate. It is a clear liquid and is a great anti-wear, extreme pressure, and friction modifier. It also has anti-oxidant properties.

Rockledge, my friend. You never come visit any more. You don't write, you don't send checks..........shame! Additive clash is pretty much a thing of the past. API dictates that to be certified, your product must mix well with others. Considering the add pack of Redline is fairly straight forward and the polyol base will mix with any basestock, there is no issue using it as an additive, certification or not. There are some exotic ester based oils I wouldn't mix but other than that, mix all ya want. I think that using Redline 100% is a waste on the daily driver but it sure is high in all of the right goodies when used as an additive. As I remember, you drive a Ranger 3.0. That is a great little engine that could benefit from some extra moly. Might want to give it a try.

 

Flash, Is there a minimun amount of Redline one needs to get a benefit? I am thinking there are a variety of benefits from the ester:

Cleaning
Deposit prevention
Reduced friction
Cold start protection
Boost dispersency (natural property of ester?)
Boost TBN (natural property of ester)

I wonder how much would be appropriate for each of those benefits (assuming I am correct on my list). I am thinking as little as one ounce Redline per quart of oil could provide some cleaning/deposit prevention benefits, but for the other benefits, probably more is needed?

Also, I wonder how much of the Redline is ester. Seems 50 percent is a reasonable guess.

 

Thanks for the feedback, Flash. I will consider your recommendation. I've been using Castrol GTX HM in all my vehicles, if that means anything.

Also, FWIW, it's the big and mean OHV 4.0L "cologne" in the Ranger and the 3.0L "vulcan" is in the Taurus GL.

 

I beleive once initial moly is uptaken onto the engine parts only about 60ppm is needed in formulation for anti-wear for anywhere near normal intervals . Using it as an anti-oxident in dinos might be a different story .

Boron is where it's at along with high calcium. Some of these low cost oils don't use boron still yet , some use it in abundance .

I won't use a dino w/o boron since there's others for the near or exact same price with it .

BTW , there more than one oil soluable moly being used . Some are better than others IMO

All the above is just my two cents .

EDIT:

There's a new class of zinc being used in some oils that is activated at lower temp than previous zinc . This type zinc, MoS5 moly , boron and calcium with good base oils is a winner . These oil needs the zinc to protect before the moly will engage into action , when used as anti-wear it won't get into gear until around 500f which is too late w/o other multi functional additives .

www.rtvanderbilt.com

is a wonderfull learning source for additives such as moly , boron , amines ect . A great place to visit when football is not on TV