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Yup Bill, that sure looks like the Holley 2110 with the straight 2-5/8" diameter throat. As I said, I have two of them but they each have their problems.
Best I can advise is to watch on eBay - they do come up every so often. You might find one in a salvage yard as well. Good luck with your hunt. If I run across one for you I'll let you know.
Best I can advise is to watch on eBay - they do come up every so often. You might find one in a salvage yard as well. Good luck with your hunt. If I run across one for you I'll let you know.
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Oil Bath Air filter
Bill you have the wrong carb on your truck, that one is off a car. The Air filter that 51 Dueller posted in his pics, the one on the left is the correct one, or the black one.
One other point if I may suggest is get the proper connection for the fuel flow into the carb. The one you have spells trouble, as in looking for a fire.
One other point if I may suggest is get the proper connection for the fuel flow into the carb. The one you have spells trouble, as in looking for a fire.
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JW, were you thinking of the throat connection as the way to tell if it was a truck or car carburetor? I was thinking the same thing you were about the carburetor being the car style because of the straight throat, but I got curious since I had a 272 and a 292 from a truck and they both had the straight throat type carb on them. Well, my curiosity got the better of me, so I'm going to subject you all to some illustrations from the 1948-1956 Ford Truck Parts And Accessories Catalog.
The first and last photos show the straight throat, the second and third show the flanged throat.
The first and last photos show the straight throat, the second and third show the flanged throat.
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I rummaged around and found two Holley manuals for the 2110 and it's variants.
The 2110-EE manual says the EE series was designed for trucks and industrial use - and it has the straight throat?!?
Finally, here's the 2110-EE off my 1956 272. It has the straight throat as well.
Soooo, I guess the flanged and straight throat carburetors and air cleaners were both used on trucks depending on the year and engine.
Bill, after all this, you and I are still looking for oil bath air cleaners with the 2-5/8" straight throat. If any of you other yahoos have one, give Bill a ping.
The 2110-EE manual says the EE series was designed for trucks and industrial use - and it has the straight throat?!?
Finally, here's the 2110-EE off my 1956 272. It has the straight throat as well.
Soooo, I guess the flanged and straight throat carburetors and air cleaners were both used on trucks depending on the year and engine.
Bill, after all this, you and I are still looking for oil bath air cleaners with the 2-5/8" straight throat. If any of you other yahoos have one, give Bill a ping.
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Carb Differences
Well you can't argue with the illustrations, its opened up a whole new view. I do have a coment though, not to argue with the pics, but there were several applications for these different carbs.
First off not to forget the sedan delivery which was a commercial vehicle,"Truck" but it had the similar body to the station wagon. Then there were the larger trucks which had the Lincoln engine, again different carb, or side draft as it is commonly called. Not that it should make any difference but all of my trucks have had the 94 carb and had the provision for the clamp on type Air breather, not the open throat type.
I guee that we were lucky here in Canada as only to have the Flathead V8 right through to 54, we never had the Six Cyl. Engine until 55.
Earl thanks for the pointer on the different carbs sure is an interesting post.
First off not to forget the sedan delivery which was a commercial vehicle,"Truck" but it had the similar body to the station wagon. Then there were the larger trucks which had the Lincoln engine, again different carb, or side draft as it is commonly called. Not that it should make any difference but all of my trucks have had the 94 carb and had the provision for the clamp on type Air breather, not the open throat type.
I guee that we were lucky here in Canada as only to have the Flathead V8 right through to 54, we never had the Six Cyl. Engine until 55.
Earl thanks for the pointer on the different carbs sure is an interesting post.
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51 Carb
Those photos were very helpful. Thanks. I now know that I have a carb from a 54-55 truck by looking at the base of the carb. Mine is identical to your 56 carb. It has the bolt on the throttle linkage at the bottom which does nothing on my engine??? Not sure what it does on yours George. Now I need to swap it for a 51 Carb! George, I did find an oil bath filter from a 51 truck with a straight flange. Actually, I found several of them. I went to the web site, FORD BARN ADS, I'll find the web address for you, and put a wanted add for an oil bath filter. The responses were very good. Had several people send me photos of filters from 51 Fords. From the parts breakdown, I'm not sure what part numbers 9B572 and 9B502 are? but mine has both of these, and the 51 carb does not???
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Thanks, I have not used this fuel system set-up like it is. The individual I purchased the truck from was in the process of converting the truck over to 12 volts using an alt. The fuel pump and regulator are brand new and have never been used. I will be removing them and putting it back to original, along with the generator and 6 volt system. Any suggestions??
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JW, I'm pretty sure I was under the same impression you were about the car and truck carburetors. Sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me and things get less clear instead of more clear, eh? I'm now trying to figure out how this information matches up with what I thought I knew! 
I definitely should have qualified those illustrations with the comment that they are just that - illustrations. The 48-60 catalog has been known to have a number of omissions and mistakes. The other thing is, some of the old Holley information says that the same carburetors were used on everything from tractors and trucks to cars to electrical generators.
Another thing to mention is that I only chose a few of the carburetor illustrations from the catalog. There are several others for different engines and years that didn't show the mounting method as clearly as these did.
I definitely should have qualified those illustrations with the comment that they are just that - illustrations. The 48-60 catalog has been known to have a number of omissions and mistakes. The other thing is, some of the old Holley information says that the same carburetors were used on everything from tractors and trucks to cars to electrical generators.
Another thing to mention is that I only chose a few of the carburetor illustrations from the catalog. There are several others for different engines and years that didn't show the mounting method as clearly as these did.
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Originally Posted by billorjill
Those photos were very helpful. Thanks. I now know that I have a carb from a 54-55 truck by looking at the base of the carb. Mine is identical to your 56 carb. It has the bolt on the throttle linkage at the bottom which does nothing on my engine??? Not sure what it does on yours George. Now I need to swap it for a 51 Carb! George, I did find an oil bath filter from a 51 truck with a straight flange. Actually, I found several of them. I went to the web site, FORD BARN ADS, I'll find the web address for you, and put a wanted add for an oil bath filter. The responses were very good. Had several people send me photos of filters from 51 Fords. From the parts breakdown, I'm not sure what part numbers 9B572 and 9B502 are? but mine has both of these, and the 51 carb does not???
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Other than being original to the Y-blocks, are there advantages to the oil bath filters? The old fork lifts where I used to work had them. They were used in a filthy, dusty, dirty environment. Is that the reason for them?
If I end up with the truck I am looking at, I need to find some sort of air filter is why I am asking.
http://https://www.ford-trucks.com/f...=411163&page=2
If I end up with the truck I am looking at, I need to find some sort of air filter is why I am asking.
http://https://www.ford-trucks.com/f...=411163&page=2
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They have the advantage of lubricating the outside of your intake manifold, distributor, and rocker arm covers when you remove them and allow them to tilt significantly. Other than that, they seem to work OK and don't clog up like paper filters - at least until the oil becomes totally grossed out with bugs, candy wrappers, and whatever else gets sucked into your air cleaner!
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Originally Posted by Earl
....at least until the oil becomes totally grossed out with bugs, candy wrappers, and whatever else gets sucked into your air cleaner!
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I have read that the oil-lube air filter is only regarded as adequate. It works, but it doesn't work as good as a modern paper filter. With that said, I still run my oil-lube air filter on the 55 Fairlane! I change the oil in it when ever I change the oil in the engine. Usually once a year (that's about 1500 miles) and it's amazing how dirty the air filter gets. Good luck, Jag 
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