Kevin,

Your drawing is right on the money for the one air cleaner I have with the flanged-style mount. I assume it matches John's (jvmcc) as well. And no, it isn't the same as the straight tube style mount air cleaners I have for my current Holley 2 barrel.

To avoid confusion on the flanged carbs/air cleaners, let's stay with the largest diameter on the air cleaner flange, not the carb flange. They should be close, but we might avoid any additional confusion by using the same measurement on the same part.

 

George, the picture you posted of the "flat flange" top on the carb is identical to the unit on my 272 Fairlane. So I hearby name that unit the car model of carb. For the clamp, I believe that mine came with a large hose clamp. I merely welded a piece of steel square stock 1/8" to the adjusting screw, cut it to length to clear the outside of the air cleaner and bent the end into a simetrical triangle. However, I am going to measure the opening on my air cleaner. It sounds like this huge enventory of clamps might contain one for my car instead of the hoseclamp I'm using. Jag

 

So, it looks like I've surrounded myself with a bunch of very pleasant, but otherwise very useless (to me) oil bath air cleaners. My little Holley is just like the one in the photo that Kevin posted. It measures 2.75 inches at the outside diameter of the tapered flange. The two Ford cleaners that I have would fit a carb with a dimension of 3.125 inches at the same place. Who needs one?

 

I don't know if this is relevant but I have these two air cleaners of a 51 and 52 Flathead V-8. They both have a 2 5/8" opening. The left air filter's carburator top flange opening is 2 3/4" edge to edge. I have the clamps beside them.

The one on the left has the tapered V joint for the carb, the one on the right has a flat flange that slides over the carb and is clamped.

 

Well Nathan, how beat up is the one on the right? If it doesn't have any rust-through spots, previous owner "cootie-bob" repairs (I've been waiting to use that term), or dents, I'd be willing to take it off you hands. Per board rules, e-mail me off-line via my profile and let's see if we can come to an agreement.

We're still waiting on Kevin's measurements to see if he has a 2-3/4" flared flange type air cleaner that would fit one of the "John's" carbs, I guess.

 

The guy selling the two air filters on ebay sent me photos of the mounting end of them. Neither work for my truck, but maybe for someone else.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7951962344&sspagename= ADME%3AB%3AWN%3AMT%3A1 is the ford one he's got. Photos of the other side are
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=68358&width=0 and
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=68357&width=0 (for the other one he's got for sale)

 

I measured the four one-barrel Holley 1904 carbs I have and all have throat O.D. of ~2.75". My three air cleaners have O.D.'s of ~2.75". These range in years from 1952 to 1960. I found out why the 223's air cleaner was spot welded to the top of the carb. It's a straight throat cleaner (converted to a paper filter) mounted on the flange style carb. There's the solution to your problem, George.

My 1948-56 parts manual says the '52-'56 215/223 requires an air cleaner with 2 13/16" nominal diam. carb. mtg. flange - used without brace. Not sure what those air cleaners with the 3"+ throats go to . Maybe a flathead? Nothing listed in my parts book though the only flange measurement given was for the 215/223.



Kevin Kessler
1953 Ford F-100

 

Hi guys, just reporting back with my carb measurement. I have the straight-top car model and it measures 3-1/8" across the top. I could make good use out of a stock clamp instead of the hose clamp setup I use. If anybody has one they don't plan on using, please email me directly to make arrangements. Thanks, Jag (john)

 

I need an oil bath filter for a 1951 Ford f-1, do you have one?? Thanks

Bill

 

Bill,

Can you give us the throat diameter and whether it's a straight or flanged type? A picture would be really helpful if you can do it.

 

The thraot diameter is 2 1/2 inches. Can you tell me how to attach a photo??

 

Hi guys

I know I'm from the wrong side of the tracks but I just found my 56 chassis parts and accessories catalog.

Not sure if this info will help but here goes, for the 272 oil bath air cleaner assy the part # is 7RT-9600-C,the 223 dry type is B6A-9600-A and for the 223 oil bath it's EAG-9600-A. I'm not sure if these assy numbers have the attaching clamps or not they just list clamp assy for the larger models.

You guys need to get part number B6A-18250-A its a 12 volt electric shaver

 

Chuck, the part numbers look good. The problem usually is, almost nobody knows exactly what each part number looks like. If you ask a seller or vendor for the part number of the unit they have, you'll hear either "huh?" or crickets chirping. Good to have the info posted, though. Thanks.
Bill, at 2-1/2" (or what we called 2-5/8" in the earlier posts), that's the same air cleaner I'm looking for. I have two right now with the 2-5/8" straight throat, but one needs some serious sheet metal work on one side and the other has been brazed all around the mounting area by the previous owner - and it still leaks. I don't have the expertise to work with the thin sheet metal these are made of, but if you want to take a crack at it, either of the ones I have they are yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know.

As far as attaching a photo, here are some instructions I posted a while ago. I believe they are still valid. You may need to have a certain number of posts before you can set up your gallery and insert pictures. It's been so long since I only had a few posts, I can't remember those details.

================================================== ========
To insert an image, the text in your post has to look like this:

[IMG]URL[/IMG]

The URL has to start with http:// for the FTE server to recognize it. The actual text that goes where the letters URL are above indicates precisely where on the Internet your picture is located.

OK, so now you are saying, how do I get the text that tells the server exactly where my picture is stored? Well, there are several ways to do it, but here is one fairly straightforward way for images in your FTE gallery.

1. Go to your gallery.
2. In your gallery, click on the number 2 below the image you want to include in your post. This will bring up the full size version of the picture on your screen.
3. RIGHT-click anywhere on the picture. A menu will pop up that has several options. Choose the Properties option.
4. Another window will now pop up showing a bunch of properties for the image - including the URL we want. Triple-click on the URL to select the whole thing, or, highlight the whole URL using the normal way you'd highlight any text with your mouse. Press CTRL-C to copy the URL text.
5. Click Cancel (or OK) to close the image properties box.
6. Exit your gallery.
7. Start your post in the normal way (post reply button when you are in a thread, or new topic button from the forum page).
8. Click on the Insert Image button (the mountains).
9. Remember the URL you copied from your gallery using CTRL-C? Well, now press CTRL-V to paste that URL text into the pop-up dialog box.
10. Click OK to exit the pop-up box and you're done.

Print out the instructions above and give it a try. If it works, do it about a dozen times until you can remember it without having to follow the instructions.

By the way, you can use the same method for any image on the Internet. As long as you can see the image full-size (not a little thumbnail version), you can right-click on it to get it's properties, copy the URL as described above, and paste it into the Insert Image dialog box. I find that opening a second browser window allows me to work with image URL's in one while I'm doing my post in the second one. Let us know if this works for you.

 

Here is what the carb looks like, hope you can see it, it is also in my gallery, "my first restoration....."

 

This is the carb: https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal.../81908.520.390