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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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winsor vs. Modified/High performance 4x4

351Windsor to the 351 modified:

which can make more torque?

I understand that the 351 M weighs 600 pounds and the 351 W weighsd 550 stock.

In a a light vechile like a scout 800 around 3400 lbs will it be toruqier with a 351M or a 351W ?
because I think weight hinders torque.

what differences do you notice when you drive the truck?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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I think you may be better all around to use the windsor. If you go with the 351m why don't you just make it a 400. Now that motor has alot of torque.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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thanks, I think that a 400 may be too much for a scout 800. A scout 800 is the size of a Bronco 2 and similar wieght.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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400 is the same block as the M, just a differnt crank and pistons. Weighs the same, has more go.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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351W 550lbs
351M/400 575lbs

300hp and 425ft-lbs is easy to get out of a 400.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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keep in mind your tranny as they have different patterns.
The windsor has more aftermarket goodies available.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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BTW- Good luck with mounting that in a scout last time I looked International did'nt use motor mounts in the traditional sense. Two "mounts" at the bottom of the bellhousing and a plate at the front of the motor between radiator and front cover/timing shroud. If you decide to "rig it" definitely don't use the windsor. Timing covers are known for cracking in normal vehicles. Just my 2cents.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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if you want to run a 335 series engine use the 351c same bore and stroke as the 351m or the W for that matter but uses the small block bellhousing, and the windsor motor mounts but I feel the heads (even the 2v heads) will outperform even most of the aftermarket windsor heads (barring all out race heads)
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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I will run a T-19 Granny, probably 31" tires with a 3.50 gears.


I might try to mount a Ford Engine mount in there.

I know that a bigger engine will use more gas, but will the miles per gallon be worst?

comparing the 351 M to the 400.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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between the 351m and the 400 u wont see much difference if any under normall driving. the 400 has more touque so u dont have to be into it as much to get it going which makes up for the extra 49 inches
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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They used to bolt Cleveland heads on the 351W and called it a Clevor. Intake parts are hard to find now tho.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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hey Eric I think terry parker was making a funnel web for that conversion at one time, and may still be doing it, but I think he is the only one since B&A went out of business. although I heard someone else was supposed to be starting that back up.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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HOw much should it cost me to build up a 400 or a 351M.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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I do not think I want any more than a 351. This will be a daily driver and the 400 will make too much hp for a light scout, It has a 289 i it right now which fits in there perfect I think a 351 will be a tight fit. A scout weighs 2800 lbs stock I think that with 300 or more hP it will be like a dragster. I just want in the 200 hp range 200-250hp which I consider fast. HTe fastest thing I have ever driven is a '05 F-150 5.4L and I did not get to open it up, I liked how that thing really moved when I just touched the gas. I think when you have to floor it to make power you burn more gas then when it is fast at lower revs.


I would probably cam a 351 up to 4500 rpm max and run a 450 Holly and mabe headers.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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Why not put a a good 302 in it? The weight would be less than the 351W and can be built to run well. Of course the 351W can be made to run well also. A mustang roller engine(cam) would be a nice block to stert with.
 
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