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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Ok, for a dumb question: Dewayne, is everything on the back panel held in place by vecro strips? If so, aren't the mega boomers going to move it? Looking good, John
 
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Ok, for a dumb question: Dewayne, is everything on the back panel held in place by vecro strips? If so, aren't the mega boomers going to move it? Looking good, John
No, I used velcro along the perimeter of the carpet. Back wall has a few screws in it. Additionally, you will notice an aluminum trim piece up top (yet to be painted) The trim is screwed on too, through the wood if you do it right.

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I haven't prepared any kind of detailed instructions. If you seriously want to try the back wall, I'd be glad to measure and take more PICs. Here it is in summary.

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Start with a 51 x 30 piece of tempered hardboard (some do call it masonite). You could use bath paneling too. Use something a bit flexible that is moisture resistant. Absolutely can't use untempered board. It will crawl off the wall before you get it installed.

The board sits on the ledge at the bottom, (do 56s have the ledge a 53-55 has?) mark board just below the rubber window seal and final trim to fit your truck. You will leave the carpet or fabric long so you can wrap the little ledge to the floor under the rug. On top, the board stops just below your window seal. Leave a small gap between wood and seal, to tuck the carpet/fabric under the seal. It lays flat and looks neat.

Several ways to do the corners. It takes time. I used about 22GA sheet metal. Stay light so you can form it into place. Trim as needed. Look at the PIC carefully. Notice the little bend near the edges. That keeps the metal from fighting you. My corners will sit in place without screws. I of course used screws though.

Other option would be to use wide tape, or thin metal covered with wide masking tape. Rough out the corner shape. You are making a mold. Apply a thin layer of fiberglass. After completely cured, Remove it and you can add additional glass with mat to strengthen it. You could get fancy and glass it right to the hardboard. But we are getting time consuming and the Rod Doors panel will look attractive. Carpet goes just beyond the metal. About 1/4" beyond. Use some sort of trim piece depending on what kind of headliner you have. Mine is Rod Doors.

And BTW, I am not knockng the Rod Doors backwall panel at all. What I did is just more dense, and won't distort at the speaker mount. The board has sound deadening properties ABS plastic does not. Besides audio, only other reason to copy my method is if the budget is real tight. It could be done for $30 including some carpet from the Wal-Mart floormat section. It's not true autograde rug IMO, but it's dirt cheap and you aren't going to walk on it either. I use it to cover speaker enclosures and it is easier to work with than real auto carpet. And it comes in gray, black, blue etc. I did use carpet that matches my floor. The AMP board is covered with the Wal-Mart stuff though.
 

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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Fatfenders, great looking interior. Kinda hits home right now, since I'm working on redoing the interior on my truck. I've been trying to figure out which way to go on the back wall and headliner. I still have the original tank behind the seat. I like what you did. OK, I believe you now when you say your into audio systems LOL... Nice system. I like your style in customizing. Very clean looking.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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Fatfenders that interior looks great, thanks for detailing the materials used. I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures of the headliner.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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I installed a Rod Doors headliner, and covered it with matching fabric. No way I would try to fab that piece. Too many compound curves.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Exclamation Cootie Bobbins!?!?!

I didn't realize there was a name for what I was doin'!

Looks great to me! Thanks for more ideas!

That's teh kind of iingenuity that makes this list so dam good! Keep those posts 'n Pic's rollin' in!

Great work!

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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fenders,
thanks for the summary. I need to spend quality on time inside. Also need to cut down on the noise level before I start on this. Any recommenations for doing that.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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thanks for the summary. I need to spend quality on time inside. Also need to cut down on the noise level before I start on this. Any recommenations for doing that.
We probably ought to start a separate thread on that. There are a dozen ways to skin that cat. And many of the methods work about as well as the next. CCT has a big article about deadening this month. But they are pimping Dynomat. Dynomat is a great sound deadener. But it costs about the same per yard as high end auto carpet. That's just nuts. You can buy competitive products that work as well for our needs. For only 1/3 the price.
 

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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You might want to try some sound deadening Ed, you can spend anywhere from a heck of a lot on it to not too much. I have spent up to $3/sq ft on deadening before. At the same time you can go down to your local lowes or homdeopt and pick up something called peel and seal which will also work, although it is not reccomended by many in places where the temperatures can get extreme or fluctuate a lot (see Arizona). Or another fairly inexpensiveoption is eDead http://www.edesignaudio.com/ they have a 20% off deal at the moment. I have worked with eDead v1 and V1se before and would reccomend the V1SE over the normal V1 as its twice as thick and you will end up putting on at least two layers of V1 anyways, where as with the SE you can get away with one layer in some places.

Fatfenders you said you used masonite, you talking of that concrete-based board also refered to as wonderboard sometimes? gray color...

looks very nice by the way, a good choice in components also.

Edit: beat me by two minutes fatfenders, two minutes ; )
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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You might want to try some sound deadening Ed, you can spend anywhere from a heck of a lot on it to not too much. I have spent up to $3/sq ft on deadening before. At the same time you can go down to your local lowes or homdeopt and pick up something called peel and seal which will also work, although it is not reccomended by many in places where the temperatures can get extreme or fluctuate a lot (see Arizona). Or another fairly inexpensiveoption is eDead http://www.edesignaudio.com/ they have a 20% off deal at the moment. I have worked with eDead v1 and V1se before and would reccomend the V1SE over the normal V1 as its twice as thick and you will end up putting on at least two layers of V1 anyways, where as with the SE you can get away with one layer in some places.

Fatfenders you said you used masonite, you talking of that concrete-based board also refered to as wonderboard sometimes? gray color...

looks very nice by the way, a good choice in components also.

Edit: beat me by two minutes fatfenders, two minutes ; )
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Stick around. We'll do a sound deadening thread. BTW, he's speaking of Elemental Designs. That's one of the audio companies I referred to in the big audio thread. About an hour from me in Iowa. They do have a nice deadener. I have a lot of Peel and Seal in my truck in the non-heat areas. The eDead is better, and almost as cheap. Though shipping will be painful if you live far away from Midwest.

How many layers depends on what you are doing CDR. Most of these guys aren't trying to kill 20Hz freqs at 500 Watts. They just need to kill some panel resonance/ road rattle, and maybe throw on a little foil insulation for the R value.

And no, masonite is not a cement product. That would be too heavy. Call it tempered hardboard and you'll get the right stuff.

GW

Don't be confusing Cootie Bobbin' with Jury Riggin'. Like that duct tape wad I'm using for a grommet for the PW wires entering my doors at the moment. That ain't no Cootie Bob, thats a Rig job.
 

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Im planning on sticking around fenders, hopefully I will be getting a chance to pick up the 51 unknown model that I may be able to get.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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What's with this middle aged old fart from Iowa going bananas on a sound system?

Is this the beginnings of a middle aged crisis here 'fenders?

Are you going to be getting a hair piece next and maybe liposuction ?

 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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'fenders,

While Fergie has a point, I am most impressed with the level of detail and the installation of all the interior components. You've clearly done this sort of thing before, and have invested a lot of time and thought in the project.

My real question is, can I get permission to sit in your truck and listen to the sound system? If so, can I play some Beach Boys (like my favorite - Good Vibrations), so we can bust some Tennessee glass?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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"My real question is, can I get permission to sit in your truck and listen to the sound system? If so, can I play some Beach Boys (like my favorite - Good Vibrations), so we can bust some Tennessee glass?"


George

Of course you may. You know you're always welcome. As a cultured audiophile, I happen to have requested a fresh copy of that, and in fact received it for Christmas. Perhaps we can listen to a few other selections as well. Have you ever seen truck body sheetmetal flex from sound waves? It's cool. Perhaps you can explain the physics of what is occurring If you have been following along this thread though, we may be sitting on 5 gallon buckets.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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well fenders, i could have helped you out in the seating area, but as it is, your gettin reamed good enough and far enough by the other guy, that u might as well let him finish it...saw the picture, made me sick.....funny how things work that way
as for the deadening, i have two pickups i need to do that to...but in the 69, i need to do some insulating and get that baby to warm up nice too....kill two birds while ive got the gun (and the seat) out
 
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