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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Use the Auto Trans to Warm Engine

I see repeated posts about the EBPV working to warm up the engine. It seems to be unreliable and ineffective in many cases. In my 02, it seems to be working; I hear the hiss in the exhaust as the truck idles, but it still seems to take much too long to warm up. I have started setting the parking brake and putting the transmission into gear to additionally load the engine. This seems to be very effective and really speeds up warmup. Five minutes at idle seems to do it. I can't imagine this can cause any harm to the engine or tranny, but will welcome all comments from long-time PSD owners
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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I have a 6-spd so I am not really sure, but that sounds like it would really heat up an auto. If I were doing something like that I would want a good aftermarket tranny temp gauge to make sure I wasn't killing my trans.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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That is a real good way to TRASH your transmission in a hurry! What you are doing is referred to as "brake torquing". It puts the transmission into a mode that literally cooks the transmission fluid in minutes. And a trans temp gage won't help. The fluid is cooked inside the torque converter. By the time a trans temp reading indicates overtemp, the damage is done. Why not just plug in the block warmer?
 

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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the ebpv is there to do a job...let it do it. if it don't work, fix it. it's not safe to leave any vehicle unattended, in gear !!!! it's just not worth the trouble of what could happen, just to warm your engine faster. parking brakes are not fail-safe !!!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Why not just plug in the block heater?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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yea like everyone else said, this is not a good idea, you will a) kill your trans, b) run the risk of the brake failing and your truck drives off a cliff
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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diesels are cold natured beasts try a remote starter kit then your truck can warm up while you **** shower shave and it wont do squat to tranny or neibors bushes
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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I would try this but my wifes Escort is parked in front of my truck and I don't really want to see it through the garage, through the shed and into the 4 cords of firewood I would have to restack. I can handle a cold *** on a seat for a few minutes compared to a really bad call to the Ins. company. I bet that would be an easy one to explain.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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warren250 i'll rebuild tou're trans every time it burns the fwd clutches out
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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warren250 i'll rebuild you're trans every time it burns the fwd clutches out
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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warren250 i'll rebuild tou're trans every time it burns the fwd clutches out
Yes!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Yeah, I gotta agree with everyone else brother. Leaving the "beast" running while in gear with the parking brake is just asking for a disaster sooner or later. As far as the EBPV goes, I don't know why Ford even went with it. It seems to be totally ineffective for any pratical purpose. No matter how long I let it idle in cold weather, plugging in the the heater is only thing that makes a difference in EBPV operation, or t.c. lock up.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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No matter how long I let it idle in cold weather, plugging in the the heater is only thing that makes a difference in EBPV operation, or t.c. lock up.
See, diesels are insanely efficient at idle, burning mere drops of fuel. Efficient means no waste heat means a diesel isn't going to warm up quickly if at all just being left sitting at idle. If you can't use the block heater, just get in and drive the darn thing - there's no faster way to heat it up! Ford tries to make it work even harder still under these conditions via the EBPV. If that stratgegy annoys you for some reason, then disable the EBPV.

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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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I agree with the rest of the folks here. Start it, get in and drive untill the ebpv opens. Shure, it might not have the power to get out of its own way at first but, to me its worth the slow drive rather than killing the trans.
Today I drove 3/4 of a mile at 30 mph before it opened.

DEAN
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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OK, I have seen many of you reply to various posts with pretty experienced answers and I think most of you know what your talking about but, I still have to ask. Why is this any harder on the tranny than sitting at a stop light with your foot on the brake?
 
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