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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Idle problem

I have a rough idle on my 92 explorer when its hot or after starting it cold. I have replace plugs, wires, iac, and fuel filter. Does anyone have any ideas that would cause a rough idle. after starting it, it runs rough and dies if i press the gas.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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Any codes in the computer?
Fuel pressure where it should be? Gas in vacuum line to fuel pressure regulator?
Vacuum leaks?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:09 AM
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clean the maf then reset the computer
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Do I have to have a guage to test if i have a vacuum leak?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Did you change the cap & rotor?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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I cleaned the MAF and it still idles rough.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Do I have to have a guage to test if i have a vacuum leak?
Not necessarily:
1) Get under the hood and trace vacuum lines. Make sure all the lines are connected, intact, or capped off.
2) You can also use a stethoscope to listen for vacuum leaks (the sound of hissing air).
3) I've never done this, but they say you can "spray" propane or equivalent around vacuum lines, etc. If there's a vacuum leak, the idle will go up or something when your propane passes near the leak. Of course, you've got to be careful with something like this.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Make sure you check the vacuum 'tree' ... drivers side near the firewall...
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1984 f-250
I have a rough idle on my 92 explorer .........it runs rough and dies if i press the gas.
I agree with most of what's been said (Especialy checking around the vacuum tree to the intake manifold, but the '92 only came with the 4.0L and it does not have a cap or rotor) and you can use Starting Fluid (Ether) to check but spray it very sparingling and remember it's extremely flamable. However, the part where you said it dies if you press the gas, doesn't sound so much like a vacuum leak. Makes me wonder about the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS). I saw someone ask it you'd pulled the codes, but I didn't see a reply. Definitely the first place to start is pulling the codes.

Good Luck and Happy New Year..........
 
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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I tried to pull codes but I did not get any.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Didn't get any codes as in "no codes at all", or didn't get any as in "all pass codes (111)"? Running rough like it is, I would have at least expected a 411 or a 412 from the KOER test.
Have you tested fuel pressure, yet?
Does the rough idle seem like a misfire? If so, could you perform a cylinder balance test to see if the fault is isolated to one cylinder?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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No codes came up at all and yes it does to seem to misfire, I replaced the fuel pressure regulator. I will see if that helps.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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No codes at all has two general causes:
1) Operator error. There seem to be some incorrect or hard to follow instructions for the EEC-IV self-tests out there. I like the set at www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html start reading at tests. If you have specific questions on how to run the test, post them and we'll try to help.
2) Problem with the computer/wiring. A bad connection between the computer and the self-test connector may not explain your driveability problems, but other computer faults certainly could. In this category are things like bad power supply to the computer, bad ground, internal fault, etc. 1st, make sure your following the correct procedure in pulling codes. If you're doing it right, then I would suggest figuring out why you can't get codes. You just might find out why the truck won't run right.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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I was having some serious idle issues with my '94 and I also didn't get any codes. Cleaned the MAF and changed the IAC, but still the same problem. Turned out to be a faulty computer. The tech used a jumper to bypass the idle control on the computer and it ran fine. Put the new computer in and all was fixed. Your problem sounds eerily similar to mine. If you got a buddy with a similar explorer, you could try swapping computer modules to rule it out or confirm.

Good luck
 
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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I think the problem turned out to be the alternator, I replace it and it because it was rattling and seems to be running fine. I will let you all know how it is in a day or two
 
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