help!!! Can't get my 223 started
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help!!! Can't get my 223 started
I have not started my 223 in probably 3 months. I replaced the battery just now to solve my not turning over issue mentioned last week.
The engine is turning over fine and i'm getting gas, just not firing over. Are there any steps I can check to ensure i'm getting a spark and my Coil is good?? The wires and distributor cap are fine. The engine was starting OK when it was last started.
The engine is turning over fine and i'm getting gas, just not firing over. Are there any steps I can check to ensure i'm getting a spark and my Coil is good?? The wires and distributor cap are fine. The engine was starting OK when it was last started.
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Just pull your coil wire out of the cap and lay it next to the engine and leave about 1/4 inch air gap between the 2. Have some one crank the engine wile you look at the gap you should have a good spark.
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Just tried it, and I get small spark when ignition is just turned on, but that's it, is it supposed to be continuous when doing this process, I assume so... so do I have a bad coil?
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THe spark should be a blue color and should be continuous. If it's yellow, that means it's weak. You can try a jumper wire from the pos side of the battery to the pos side of the coil. Then crank it over and see what you get. If it's continuous and blue, there's a problem from the key switch to the coil. Make sure nothing on the back of the ign switch is loose. Also make sure your points are set properly and clean. You could also have a bad condenser. There's a resister wire going to the coil, it's 20 guage and colored pink. THey sometimes go, but then I'd think you'd get nothing at all from the coil.
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If you flooded the carb by pushing on the accelerator too much, crank it w/out using the accelerator and it will dry out and catch. You can also pull the spark plugs and smell them for gas - that will ensure you are getting gas into the cylinders.
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there was a little too much fuel at first, but I cranked it all out... i'm too the point where the battery is almost dead, i'm going to have to put it in another car and go for a long drive to charge it up and try some more....
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I had a the same problem with my 223. Replaced my points and condensor and had my dist tested on an old school distributor tester, i replaced my coil wires rotor and plugs... id recommend an all out tune up which is rather cheap for the 1960 223 all these parts can be had at any major auto parts store.
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I also like having starting fluid around to use as a quick check to see if it is a fuel delivery problem.
You checked the wire to the coil and saw spark. How about from the plug wire?
You checked the wire to the coil and saw spark. How about from the plug wire?
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I used some starting fluid but to no avail. I am heading out to the truck right now to test some things out with a multi-meter... will probably be heading down to get a new dist. cap and rotor to put in. The plugs are new, and the wires are in good shape.
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Well I just dissasembled the rotor and dist. cap and checked all continuity and operation and they're working fine... I rewired the wiring from the ignition to the coil and from the coil to the dist. but now I can't get it to turn over period... hmmmmmm I know I hooked everything up properly. Oh well, it's dark now so i'll mess with it some more tomorrow... I need to get it running by Sunday because i'm moving across town!
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Yep, that's what I have, I have the shop manual for the truck, and have read the whole section on the ignition system trying to figure out whats wrong... I think the whole sha-bang needs to be rewired.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
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The ign wiring has nothing to do with the turning over, just actual running. You starter solonoid has the 2 small terminals on it and if you put the 2 wires on in reverse, it will act like a dead battery. You turn the key to start and you get nothing at all. I would also check your ign switch for bad connections and to see if it is bad. Some switches actually self destruct inside.There was some posts a while back where the owner took the switch out and it crumbled in his hand. I wouldn'tverlook it. Follow the shop manual wiring diagrahm to check the wires. I'd use a continutity test to look for breaks.
Good luck,
Barry
Good luck,
Barry