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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Is a 428???

A friend saw an engine. By stroke and bore he think that is a 428. The castings of most pieces are:

Block: C5AE-????-A
heads:C4AE-6090-G
Rod(or conecting rod???): C3AE-C Also says 85K Y B135
Crank: C4AE-B
Intake manifold(4bbl): C5AE-9425-C
Decal on avlve cover says: "INTERCEPTOR"

The engine was saw on a boats reseller. but most of the engines in there came from a car. there is a lot of Ranger's 302" V8 and Argentinian 221" Inline Six, also saw some "chuvys" 350 engines from trucks.

Anyone can tell me something about this engine?

regards & thanks for your answer,
Mariano
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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I forgot something

Bore is 4.13 but i dont know if it´s standard bore. the block isn´t crossbolt.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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A bore of 4.13 is a standard bore for a 428 or a 410. Stroke on a 428 is 3.98" while a 410 is 3.78".
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Block is 65 390. Heads are 64-65 352/390. Crank is 64 cast iron 427 and the rods 63-early 65 427 as well. The intake is a 65 lowriser type with the tall ports and the last of the iron lowrisers. Very possible the engine is fairly original also. I've heard of a few 390's that came through with some HD 427 parts. The crank is the same 3.78 390/427 stroke. Hard to tell 40 years later how original it is but sounds like a very early 65 390. If the valve covers and engine is original it could be a 390 police interceptor engine. The only thing is the 4.13 must be overbore as there was no C5 428 block. The 428 came out in 66 with a C6 block. Some 390 blocks can take a 4.13 std 428 bore. Worth take a look at for sure. G.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:46 AM
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Sounds like a 406 to me. If it is, it's very valuable, rarer than the later 427's. Only in production 2 years. Same bore as the later 428, actually the 428 was just a stroked 406, since the 406 came first. Then again the block #'s don't add up, you sure the bore was 4.13 and not 4.23? There were marine versions of the 427, never heard of a marine 406.
 

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
A bore of 4.13 is a standard bore for a 428 or a 410. Stroke on a 428 is 3.98" while a 410 is 3.78".
Wrong info. The 410 had the 390's 4.05 bore. Both 410 and the 428 had the 3.98 stroke.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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The 406 only had a 1 year 62 1/2 to 63 1/2 production. 406 blocks are C2 and C3. The C5AE-A block is 390.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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There are also C5AE 427 blocks. But he may have mistaken the 4.13 bore size, more likely it's a 60 over 390 ( 4.11 bore) One easy way to tell is to mic the piston skirts.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Yep I saw that also but he mentioned above it's not a crossbolt block. BUT it might be an industrial 427 which came with a C5 casting and 2 bolt mains if the bore is 4.23 so that's a thought as well. I understand there were quite a few 427's for the industrial/irrigation applications used and know of two such engines. Hey, you ever sell your 427 block? G.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Baddad457, Well now, you see what happens when you use your memory instead of looking things up when you get old. You are right the 410 was a stroked 390.
 
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Originally Posted by FFR428
Yep I saw that also but he mentioned above it's not a crossbolt block. BUT it might be an industrial 427 which came with a C5 casting and 2 bolt mains if the bore is 4.23 so that's a thought as well. I understand there were quite a few 427's for the industrial/irrigation applications used and know of two such engines. Hey, you ever sell your 427 block? G.
Yea, it sold on ebay yesterday $800 + shipping. Crated it up today. Not a bad investment. Bought the whole thing for $1200, sold it separately for $1450.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Baddad457, Well now, you see what happens when you use your memory instead of looking things up when you get old. You are right the 410 was a stroked 390.
S'OK, you were just suffering from CRS Or having a Blonde moment
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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S'OK, you were just suffering from CRS Or having a Blonde moment
The former I'm afraid and way to often anymore. Maybe my brain is full and everytime something new goes in something old falls out. Only it's not the oldest thing, just kinda random.
 
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About the only things I tend to forget now are where I set my tools down. 5 minutes later, they've disappeared into the twilight zone. Seems I spend more time lookin for stuff than actually doing the job at hand.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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BadDad, congrats on the sale. Glad it worked out for you! I do the same with my tools at work. Put it down then it's gone and can't find it. I'm gonna start putting little bells on the things pretty soon LOL. G.
 
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