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I have a 1978 F150 2wd 8' bed, with a 460 (factory 460 SuperCab).
No cats and it passes emmissions in AZ fine. I was told GVWR had to do with whether the cats were required or not. I think my truck is a 6800GWR, but not sure. Its a trailer special.
The emmission stickers I viewed online for these trucks indicated that the engine family is what caused need for cats.
I have an orange sticker for emmissions (reproduction) that says NON-CATALYST heavy duty motor. It lists 370/429/460 as the "heavy duty motor".
When I go thru emmissions I bring this unused reproduction sticker with me, but they've never asked about cats. I just figure for a $5.00 sticker it may end up saving me some time so I bring it.
I think 6000 GVW was the cut off for cats. I have a 77 F-150 with a 6050 GVM, just high enough to avoid cats. GMC did this with their "Heavy Half" in the 70's and Chevy did it with their "Big 10" models. It was just a way to edge over the GVW limit.
What is the big deal with having cats in the first place? I don't have them on my truck but I almost feel sorry for people behind me choking on all those hydrocarbons I'm puking out, and if I'm driving behind somebody without them I can tell, sure isn't pleasant to breathe.
If your engine is tuned correctly it shouldnt smell too bad. When you smell a guy in front of you very strongly it usually means he is burning oil or has something out of wack, timing fuel mixture etc
Show me 1 well tuned engine from the factory in the 70's. All they did was to lean out a motor to burn hotter, and burn less fuel (hence no power what so ever).
Steve S.
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Originally Posted by zwinstead
If your engine is tuned correctly it shouldnt smell too bad. When you smell a guy in front of you very strongly it usually means he is burning oil or has something out of wack, timing fuel mixture etc
If your engine is tuned correctly it shouldnt smell too bad. When you smell a guy in front of you very strongly it usually means he is burning oil or has something out of wack, timing fuel mixture etc
All I'm saying is I can tell if there is a cat or not. My truck with it's '69 engine is perfectly tuned, I adjusted the idle mixture using a 5 gas analyzer and according to it's spec it is suppose to idle at 14:1, it just stinks! I'm still waiting for an intelligent reason from somebody as to why not to run cats.........Anybody out there got one?
My 79 4X4 F250 did not come w/cats.I believe whoever said earlier that it went by gross vehicle weight or something like that.8500# or something like that.
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