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Old 12-10-2004, 02:09 PM
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are injectors that much?

I f you remember, I was having a problem with the beast starting and was using starter fluid to kick it in the pants. It had also developed an issue with sounding like it was running on 5 cylinders. Well I took it into the shop. A place that came highly recommended. Basically they are stumped. It has a dead cylinder and they are are talking possibly about replacing an injector.
My question.....Is it something that I can do myself? Would they replace them all 'while they are there'? What would the cost be??
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:08 PM
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Uhh - I garantee that using that starting fluid did NOT help your truck any - you're lucky it didn't kick you AND your trucks pants.... at the same time....
 
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I didnt use it for long but that was the only way to get it started and over to the garage. I just talked to them and they want to start with a compression test ($400.00) and then there talking about pulling and sending out the injectors. The injectors there saying are $300.00 each. Big ouch!!

Has anyone been through this??
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:49 PM
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What year is your truck? How many miles on it? It's possible that the wiring harnesses are simply melted. Hopefully the starting fluid did not cause any other damage. I'd sooner have my truck towed than risk damaging the engine with that stuff.
 
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Its a 96 with 223k on it.
 
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If nothing else has already been done, I'd change the injector o-rings and replace the wiring harnesses. It is possible that one or more of the injectors is failing, but it is also possible that the wiring harnesses are worn out.
 
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:40 PM
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John's advice is good, follow up on that. If you do have to have the injectors replaced, you can get upgraded injectors for $850 for the whole set of eight, much less than the $300/ea you were quoted.
 
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What are the symptoms of bad injector O rings?
 
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Whell on 6.9 I had I bought remans. from a local rebuilder, that the local ford dealers used & marked them up a bunch I mean a bunch. Go to the local diesal repair shop & ask a mech. were thay get them rebuilt. On 6.9 they had A & B injectors. You will need to check your injectors for the #'s Mine were easy to change , First you need to make sure the area around them is clean of dirt & trash. A good auto parts store will have a product line called K-D they make a comp. tester for the comp. check that is east to do. Just make sure you disable the start up on your engine when checking the comp. !!!!


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What are the symptoms of bad injector O rings?
There are a number of O-rings on each injector, so there are a number of different symptoms should one fail. Finding fuel in your engine oil, and oil in your coolant are signs that one of the O-rings have failed.
When my O-rings failed, the bottom ring ruptured, dumping fuel into the cylinder at all times, not only when the injector fired. The symptom at that time, was a very loud misfiring injector, and more smoke than I've ever seen come from a truck.
On a smaller scale, O-rings that have become hard will allow more fuel seepage while the engine is cold, so extended smoking in the morning can also be caused by O-rings.
 
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Quad where can you get a complete set for $850.00?
 
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla
There are a number of O-rings on each injector, so there are a number of different symptoms should one fail. Finding fuel in your engine oil, and oil in your coolant are signs that one of the O-rings have failed.
When my O-rings failed, the bottom ring ruptured, dumping fuel into the cylinder at all times, not only when the injector fired. The symptom at that time, was a very loud misfiring injector, and more smoke than I've ever seen come from a truck.
On a smaller scale, O-rings that have become hard will allow more fuel seepage while the engine is cold, so extended smoking in the morning can also be caused by O-rings.
Thanks Quadzilla, that's great info.
 
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Which o-rings would cause more smoke in the morning, lower middle or upper? My truck smokes quite abit until it warms up and clears up, then it doesn't puff at all.
 
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Originally Posted by mr_fixit
Quad where can you get a complete set for $850.00?
You can get a set of "Baby Swamps" from Swamp donkey for $850.
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JR: The lowers will cause the smoke in the morning... I'm 99% sure that's my problem.
 



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