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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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major electrical problem!!

i have a 92 bronco, 302...however i cant drive it!! there is a short in the power somewere. nothing will come on when the key is turned. i tried a brand new battery and wires. anybody have this problem before or have a clue as to what it might be. i need help...pleeeease!!!
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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could be a bad ground, or something is messed up in your steering column.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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I had the same problem. When I'd try to start my engine I would get a click and nothing would happen...I then turned off the key and turned it back on, but nothing happened at all. Turned out my battery cable was chaffed through and rubbing on the chassis creating a short to ground. I was able to start it after fixing the problem by removing the negative battery cable for 3 minutes or so and reconnecting it and it started right up. Check to make sure none of the starting circuit is shorted to ground. Look for obvious wire chaffing and check to make sure all of your ground connections are in good condition.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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It could be one of a million things. At least we know that the battery and wires are good. The easiest possible answers are - bad ground (trace the negative battery cable all the way back and make sure that it is good and tight) bad ignition switch (in the column), bad electrical module (located near the distributor), bad starter relay or starter shorting out, short in distributor.. those are a few of the simpler things to check first.

I had the same problem once, it turned out that one of the hot wires in one of the harnesses on the driver's side fenderwell broke. That one was a PITA to find and took a long time to find it; it was not something obvious and we only found it after testing a bunch of other stuff and working back through the wires. The bad connection was actually inside the harness plug, so it could not even be seen. It rendered the whole truck dead until we found it. I hope yours is more obvious than mine was.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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ok, heres the latest...the short is fixed....but now the engine wont turn over. the place its sitting at says its the crankshaft and i need a new engine. apparently when turning the engine manually the rotation gets hug up somewhere on something. does this sound right??? they said they checked the starter and it was fine. if anyone has a second opinion i really would be grateful...
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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unbolt the flywheel from the torque converter and then try turning it over manually.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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i think these guys are full of **** cause i decided to take the starter in and have it checked myself....ya, completely shot!! so im gonna take them a new one tomarrow and see what happens...more then..
 
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Where was the short?
 
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i had the sme problem when i changed my steering colom...i tryed to start the truck..it started once then i shut it off tryed to tart it again and got smoke from under the dash..ended up costin 350$ lol .....moral of the story could be alotta things
 
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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the short was a ground wire not being grounded. but its fixed now. just got the new starter and am going to try it out first thing tomarrow morning. the mechanics told me i needed a whole new engine before i took the starter to be tested. sooooo, hopefully this will help a little. at least maybe the darn thing will turn over. like i said, more tomarrow as the saga continues.....till then......
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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ok, put the starter in the truck yesterday and it did the same thing..."click", but this time the click was coming from the starter seleniod. so the mechanic came over and said i needed a new engine, that this one was locked up and thats why it wasnt turning over. then they tested the seleniod, said it was fine, and again said i needed a new engine. so i pulled off the seleniod and had it tested at the auto parts store. DOESNT WORK!! so i got another one and slapped it in the truck. they about crapped when the darn thing turned over and fired right up. my brake line had a leak, and they wouldnt let me fix it there so i could drive it home.. they instead told me i had to call a tow truck and leave immediately. how funny is that...they got showed up by a girl!!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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HA! You go girl...Go back and tell 'em, "Next time I need my turn signal fluid topped off I'll stop by, until then you can blow smoke up some one elses a**"!

I think you need to find some place to post the name of the shop and just tell as many people as you can...they deserve the humiliation for trying to put one over on you.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Wow! I'd be getting ALL your money back from that place and filing a complaint with the better business bureau. I do recognize that fixing older vehicles is often more guessing than anything else. But when troubleshooting you start at the easiest and cheapest thing to fix, not the motor! And starters are pretty easy to test.... Glad to see you showing them up. Make them pay for the tow truck. But I sure wouldn't trust them with my brakes!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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oh believe me...i didnt pay them one red cent.
till next time
thanks to all who helped.....
jacqui
 
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