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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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cab metal question

what gauge metal is the cab floor in a 55 f100? ...firewall? Is it all the same? What about fenders? Thank you !! ...sorry for the dumb question, but I cant find it anywhere
 
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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We had a thread on this not too long ago and Randy Jack came up with 16 Ga. on the body/fenders and 14 Ga. on the bed sides. I think this is correct as I used 16 Ga. on a spot on the fender and a lower cab corner and it matched perfectly.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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We used 16 on my firewall, then covered it with 18 stainless.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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We used 16 on my firewall, then covered it with 18 stainless.
Did you use a premade SS cover or fabricate it yourself? I'd like to cover my firewall in stainless but I don't want it to look like a funhouse mirror.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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We put a steel firewall in got it flat and smooth then glued a 18 ga stainless on the top. You have to get the steel one flat first. Haven't polished this one out yet but we think it will be smooth. We fab-ed our own firewall. then we made a cardboard pattern with all the cutouts and gave it to the machine shop to drill the stainless.


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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Body exterior metal is 16ga? I know that trucks are built heavier than passenger cars, but that's almost 1/16" thick! I would have expected maybe that for the floor and the firewall, and 14-16 ga for the bed but something more in the 19-20 ga for exterior. I'm going to have to bring home a micrometer to check that.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks JJ!
I'd like to suggest that next time tho you try to find prepolished SS sheet, or plan to use a brushed finish, SS is a B**ch to polish and a large flat surface is the worst possible thing to do. As a fine jewelry custom designer and manufacturer I polish metal every day for the last 25 years but wouldn't want to tackle a SS firewall from mill finish to polished, especially in place.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Stay tuned in film at 11:00 on the polishing. I will let you know.


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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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Well if you run into problems or need suggestions, how tos, what to uses, or where to gets give me a shout. If you haven't done it before, don't just jump right into the firewall without practicing/testing on some scrap first. Wrong techniques can be nearly impossible to fix. Be VERY careful! polishing sheet metal is one of the most potentially dangerous operations there is. I personally know a college professor of national reputation who cut off three of her fingers in just a moment of lapsed concentration polishing a piece of copper sheet. I also saved a female student from being scalped when she got her hair caught in the buffer in the jewelry studio at grad school.
 

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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sounds painful! The reason I asked is because I just bought rear fender patches from lmc and they are 14ga (or so it says on the sticker on them), so I was thinking that the cab would be 14 gauge too. The patches seem extremely thick, but I am not sure. Does anyone know what 14, 16, 18, 20, and 22 gauge thickness are?? ...Ill do a search you dont have to answer that.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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Yes, but all my references are at the studio, can you wait until tomorrow? I know 20 ga = .030" use that one a lot. 14 ga= almost exactly 1/16" IIRC
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Drool,
14=.0747 16=.0598 18=.0478 20=.0359 22=.0299
hope that helps,
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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OK, I'm awake now...
It depends on who's scale you are reading, there are several right answers:

AWG
14 = .0641
16 = .0508
20 = .032

SWG
14 = .080
16 = .064
20 = .036

BG
14 = .0785
16 = .0625
20 = .0392

Evidently Mike has found yet another scale.
So it can be different by a significant amount especially if the parts were made out of the US.
 

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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by the looks of my chart,
awg is aluminum, swg is strip and tubing , bg is stainless
the scale I enter is listed as sheet steel.
Ax is right, it varies some from scale to scale, however I think, close is good enough for patching, a couple of .000s won't make a big difference in the end.
Mike
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Too true, MT. 16 guage is around 1/16". It is actually listed in my book as .0598 (Jorgensen Steel Co), but the mill tolerance will let that go from about .056 to .062 (or so). And, no, it won't matter if it is a few thousanths different from the original stuff.
 
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