Tim,
Another question. On the harness above the hump there were three connectors. I have Grey, Green and Blue. (you had grey green and orange) Anyway, just to check my work so far, did all your wires hook only to the grey connector?
Also, I didn't take note of the connector order when pulling them out and all connectors fit all sockets. Do you remember the color order? Thanks.

Todd

 

Finally got my remote start/keyless entry system installed on a 2004 f350 crew cab and surprizingly, everything works. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I did find a discrepency in the setup instructions. The tach sensor setup was at a different option number than the setup instructions listed, so at first I thought I had no tach sensor, but I checked the specific instructions for the rke/rmst and found it.
I do have one final question: Are you guys using the 30 second delay to start your diesels?
My buddy thinks that if you wait 30 seconds, the glow plugs actually will cool down. I don't believe this could be the case. Since this is on his truck, we have left it at default, which is about 3-5 seconds.

Thanks

Todd

 

Per the owner's manual, the glow plugs don't cool down until 2 minutes after the glow plug indicator goes off. Therefore, 30 seconds is a good delay. IMO, 3-5 seconds is too short.

 

roto, the part # for the tach inverter is 5C3Z-17C304-AA.

tj, sounds like you did a good job....now its Miller Lite time!!!....enjoy. Tim

 

Thanks TLW. I appreciate the info.

 

I have the same alarm and the installer had a tough time figuring out the turbo cool down feature. I know he had to add two relays and switch for it to work. I wish I had more info but at least you know it can work. This is one of those jobs I was glad I had a professional do. Good Luck

 

Has anyone figured out how to interface a remote starter to the glowplug / Wait to Start circuit in the 2004 ( 6.0) diesels?

I ordered a Crimestopper Coolstart system which has an input to monitor the wait to start / glowplug circuit and can use either a positive or negative trigger.
The 2004 wiring diagrams available online show "NA" for the "Wait to Start" line.

Reading through the 6.0 bible it would appear that I would need to attach to one of the output wires from the glowplug control module (using isolation diode), but I am a little concerned that this may cause a problem.

I could always use the pre-programmed delay option, but I would prefer to have the system be as smart as it can....

 

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The short answer is unfortunately no. The wait-to-start light is actually an LED, not a bulb, that is soldered onto the instrument panel circuit board and cotrolled by the ECM via data bus cable, it is not usuable. Wiring the wait-to-start wire to the glow plug control itself may be a bad idea. The module turns the glow plugs on for 2 minutes, if you use the remote start input wire to sense when the power goes off, you would be trying to start the vehicle after the glow plugs have turned-off. I know of one installer in Canada (and there have probably been other's) who actually tried soldering the wait-to-start input wire from the remote start directly to the circuit board and still couldn't get it to work. He tried both diode isolating the wire and relay isolating the wire and still no dice. Another guy wanted to try putting a light sensitive diode next to the wait-to-start LED that would trip a relay when it went off, but I never heard if he actually succeeded. We all want the wait-to-start input to work, but it seems at this moment that using a pulse timer relay or the remote start systems onboard delay is our only option. Hopefully with more people trying someone will work it out.

 

Envirocon,

Thanks for your quick and thorough reply.

It is not what I wanted to hear, but the more I have researched this, the more I suspected what the end result would be....

Oh well, just have to use the timer feature on the remote starter.

 

I'll see your and raise you and a .

 

If you are that concerned about waiting for the glow plugs to be off (remember that the light in the dash goes out after 15 seconds but the glow plug system remains on for 2 minutes) locate the power circuit to the plugs in the engine compartment and use that as 12v positive trigger source. The ford factory remote start uses a 30 second delay which gives the engine 15 additional seconds before engaging the starter than if i were to start the truck myself.

 

Rotormech- I think you may have misread the post. Starting a cold diesel after the glow plugs have shut-down would be a bad thing, the chamber would immediately begin to cool back down. Dsweger wanted to make sure that the glow plugs had had the minimum neccessary on time to heat the combustion chamber before his remote start tried to start the vehicle.

 

Envirocon when you say the wait-to-start light isn't 'usable', you mean you can't access the location or can't load the wire? simple transistor circuit could monitor it, if you can get to it. ò¿ö

 

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Netfly- A little bit of both. Mostly it's the wire itself. It would be like trying to tap into the bus cable that goes from your computer's motherboard to the drives. Also I believe the signal may be digital. If you own a diesel (or can sucker a friend) and are willing to try, give it a shot. I don't mean that sarcastically, I mean if you can find a way to get it work without messing up the ECM there would be a lot of gratefull 6.0 owners and installers.

 

I own a 05 6.0, looking at new alarms atm. Considering DEI viper 791xv, autopage RS-855LCD or asian wolf 8000rs. As soon as I get one I'll give it a look.