To answer your question,yes you have to fill in the entire chanel. As for the look of the fix, your correct, it is a little crude. But the job takes about a 1/2 hour and is not permenent. When and if Ford has a fix, the silicone can be removed. As for replacing the wind shield, Ford replaced mine, no change. They also sealed fog lights that made no differance. Well, if you can stand the wind noise more power to you. As for me, 1/2 hour of my time, and a few bucks in silicone, has stopped me from going crazy. Good luck.

 

BWEP,

No, I can't stand the wind noise. I inferred from your comments that the silicon was a permanent fix and although a fix, not acceptable in terms of a brand new truck that touts the quietest interior. I now understand your thinking in that the 'silicon' solution is an interim fix until Ford first admits to the problem then comes up with a real fix. The bottom line, the wind noise is definitely coming from the top of the windshield as several have posted that being the problem area. In addition, your the second person now that has had the windshield replaced and the wind noise has not gone away.

 

Here's the latest status with regards to solving the dreaded wind noise problem. Also, I provided some detailed information as to how jjohn85's fix was done.

Per a previous post by jjohn85, Called Woody Sander Ford again... Service stated they had “Water Doctors” (waterdoctors.com) fix the problem by using a pressurized tank setup that forced a sealer called Liquid Metal between/under the window and the modling along the top of the windshield. This was done from the exterior. No sealant was added to the channel or the rubber stripping above the channel towards/along the roof line.

Talked to the body shop at my Ford dealer (Link Ford Rice Lake WI). They indicated their Ford field rep has no knowledge of wind noise issues. How could the rep not heard of this issue? Setup service appointment for 01/17/05. The body shop technician, who is very good, believes based on the wind noise heard during a test drive he can fix the problem by pulling the interior headliner and from the inside re-sealing along the top of windshield. He claims pulling the headliner is not difficult and was designed to be pulled fairly easily. Additionally, there will be no visible indication sealant was added. Stated about a 1 hour job.

I'll provide an update as to whether the wind noise problem is fixed following the attempted fix on 01/17/05.

 

Well ftkcignusx1 sounds to me like your firm stance on this issue is starting to get shaky. Your still not getting your answer on why some have this problem and others don"t from the rep. Also the rep states he has not herd of this wind problem, really? As for the body shop taking down head liner, sounds like a new approach. When I siliconed under the gasket I never test drove it. I continued on and sealed outside of gasket, maybe just sealing under the gasket would have been enough. I'm guessing but I have a feeling you don't want anything to change the look of your trucks extreior, but hidden will be ok. Maybe some day I'll remove silicone on outside but right now I'm tired of playing with this problem. Just to list a few other attemps I have done. Remove wind shield wipers no change. Hood adjustments up&down no change. Remove front grill no change. Remove front licence bracket and plate no change. Foam sealed between plastic grate and wind shield no change. Added bug deflector no change. Remove rubber shroud between bumper and radiator no change. Pulled in driver and passenger mirrors no change. Sealed the underside of wind shield (bottom under grate) no change. Sealed the bottom of A pillars no change. Pulled my hair and asked the truck nicely to stop it no change. There might even be more attemps I've tried but have forgotten. The point I'm getting at is I wouldn"t alter the look of my truck ether, unless nessasry. All that said good luck on this new attempt, let us know the outcome. P.S 5 days without wind noise and I'm lovin it!

 

BWEP, Did you try clicking your heals together 3 times and each time saying wind noise please be gone... Anyway, it is amazing the regional Ford Rep knew nothing of this wind noise problem. Anyone else out there ask their Ford Rep is he/she has heard of this wind noise problem and if so, what Ford is saying in regards to a resolution? My guess as to why it's on some trucks have the wind noise and other don't is poor workmanship on the assembly line. It's a seal problem and if it's taken care of by resealing where it can't be seen, I'm ok with that for now. I would still like Ford to admit to the problem and issue a TSB or SSM with an eventual fix. Again I'll post following the interior headliner (attempted) fix.

 

Ok, here's the results of the 01/17/05 visit to the Ford dealer. Technician dropped the headliner and resealed along the top of the windshield. He stated the existing seal was not aligned uniformly, especially around the center of the windshield top. Took it for a drive, no change in wind noise. He was very surprised. So, taped the windshield only where the windshield hit the 1/8" piece of decorative molding (hard to believe something so useless can cause such a problem!). For the most part, wind noise gone. I could then hear some road noise but the wind noise was essentially gone. I informed the technician of the fix jjohn85 had done, that being injecting sealant under the 1/8" piece of molding along the top of the windshield as well as the fix BWEP had done. So, now I'm in the crowd with BWEP; technician ran a flat 1/8" bead of silicon between the windshield and the 1/8" molding along the entire top of the windshield. It's not noticeable unless you get right up to the top of the windshield and look closely. No silicon in the 'channel' although it probably can't hurt since that is probably tough to see as well. If I start to hear wind noise down the road again, I'll reseal the windshield/mold again and more than likely plug the channel for the hell of it and just so BWEP can say "told you so"

While I was at the dealer, I also had a PCM upgrade done which like everyone on the various PCM threads state, "throttle response is greatly improved - night and day difference". Shifting points also change for the better in my opinion. I have a 07/04 build date with the below PCM version info. If you visit your dealer and hook your truck up to the WDS machine, it will detect your PCM version and compare it to the latest at Ford. If a newer one exists, it will download it (with your permission/technician's acceptance).
Serial # 6EXN28301GN1; Model # 6EXN283A52; ; P/N: 4L3A-12A650-AEE; Supplier Motorola M799G; Version: EAY4

 

Has Anyone Had A Wierd Chatering Noise In The Back Glass Of There 04-05 F150s Mine Is Horrible Sounding

 

there is a TSB for it!!

 

Probably the wrong thread for this, but here's the TSB:

04-2-6 FEB 04 Body - Power Sliding Back Glass Squeaks/Rattle

 

Did the silicone bead go just below the 1/4 weatherstrip sealing the crack between it and the windshield, or did they get it underneath the weatherstrip?

I want to fix mine this weekend. I too had the reflash, and what an immediate difference. I didn't believe it either, but it helped tremendously!

Thanks for all the help on the wind noise. After I hear back from you, I hope to get mine solved this weekend. Any particular type of silicone?

 

beside from the wind noise, now the front windshield is leaking water

i will take it in this week and see what the dealer says.

 

Goatdriver : I used GE silicone clear under the gasket. You must pull back gasket and inject underneath. As for the outside of the gasket I went to the dealership and they supplied me with a tube of black silicone/gasket maker (motorcraft product). To obtain a nice clean look you should tape off roofline and along metal trim. In previous thread I stated I was not sure you had to silicone outside, I removed outside silicone and wind noise returned. Good luck with the fix.

 

thanks man for the info i didnt know about the tsb thanks again

 

Ftkcignusx1: sorry to here inside fix didn’t work. Looks like your coming my way. You should see the light at the end of the tunnel. Your ½ way there, fill in that channel and enjoy wind free driving. Thanks for the flash info next time I’m in dealership I’ll have them check my computer. Truck builds date 5/04. Keep us updated with your progress.

 

BWEP, can we clarify terms - I'm confused. From the middle of the windshield going up, you first encounter what I call a 1/8" strip of cosmetic modling that spans across the entire top of the windshield. Following up you next encounter what I call the channel (you can almost run your finger in it). Following up and adjoining the channel to the roof line is a 1/8" (at best) piece of rubber molding.

You mentioned to seal the gasket on both the inside and outside. The outside seems to correcspond to filling the channel. However, I'm confused on what you call the inside gasket. Does that correspond to what I call the 1/8" strip of cosmetic molding (first thing you encounter as you move up the windshield towards the top), or is it what I call the 1/8" rubber molding that connects the channel to the roof line?

In the fix I had done, they put down a flat 1/8" or so bead of clear silicon (don't know the type/brand) where the windshield meets the 1/8" cosmetic molding. As Goatdriver says, "sealing the crack between it and the windshield". I know jjohn85 had sealant injected under this piece. I'm sure under as well as between the crack is the best approach. When I went to the Auto Glass Specialists place a few weeks back, they actually peeled back the rubber molding with a small screw driver and ran a bead of urathane between it and the roofline. That was messy and had to be wiped up and did nothing for the windnoise so I'm sure when you say to "seal under the inside of the gasket", your referrring to what I call the cosmetic molding.

I did call the Service department at my dealer today and told them I'm happy with the outcome of the fix, but the fix is temporary (silicon will shrink, break down, etc., over time) and they need to inform Ford of this problem and to provide a fix. I would let this rest if it were on an older truck, but on a brand new big buck truck, come on Ford! After my fix, I thought either the cosmetic modling is defective or just not installed/sealed correctly. Fords fix would be to issue a new piece of molding and instructions on how to seal it properly (and that would'nt include siliconing it on the outside since other trucks don't have to resort to that resolution). Perhaps the channel is defective and/or sealed/installed incorrectly as well. Nothing will probably happen so... I'll probably end up siliconing the channel. While I'm at it, thought it wouldn't hurt to also seal under/inbetween the windshield and the molding along each pillar. My NEW truck mindset is starting to change quickly... maybe from being white instead of shadow grey due to all of the salt buildup we get on vehicles living in WI.