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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Customz
A turbo with too little backpressure will:
Spool up faster, push more volume at slightly higher velocities and rotate faster than designed. This is excellent for horsepower/torque numbers but bad news for bearings and rotating assembies in your turbo.
That is a valid argument. I did not agree that the variable vane design played a roll in requiring backpressure, but by that token that would apply for any turbocharger, and makes sense.

The engine that is in my truck now is running about 34 lbs of boost with a straight pipe- no cat, no muffler. This will jump to about 38 or 39 when the water injection is on. So far, it hasn't had any problems, however the engine only has about 7000 miles on it, so it is too early to tell. Time will tell how durable the bearings and components are in these, I suppose. As far as bearings go, I do believe that we have an advantage on our side, with solid free-float bearings instead of the old babbit design in the Holsets on the Cummins (I don't know if the new Cummins uses them or not.)

IMO you are right about removal of the cat possibly causing durability issues, I just simply do not believe it has any effect on the EBPS or any other computer-controlled function.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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so will removing the cat hurt engine life?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Customz
A turbo with too little backpressure will:
Spool up faster, push more volume at slightly higher velocities and rotate faster than designed. This is excellent for horsepower/torque numbers but bad news for bearings and rotating assembies in your turbo.
That is exactly why the 7.3's experience turbo flutters and are changing wheels and housings. I had a 10/98 (99) 7.3 and everything worked GREAT with all of the mods and 4" straight exhaust with a CAT delete pipe. Once I removed the muffler, the turbo began the all too familiar flutter indicating that the flow potential was too great for the flow production. The early model 7.3 had a wheel already on it that was similar to the wicked wheel design, so there was no fix for this model.
 
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