can anyone help me find a good program and where i can get it.and the price. thank you

 

Try EA v3.0.

Go to my page and click on the second red link 'Engine Analyzer v3.0'............ http://www.geocities.com/my90lariat/index.html

I won't charge you.... this time :-)

 

thank you alot

 

but how do i use and install it

 

Down load it, right click "save target as", then when your done you can open it, then you will see many icons, open disk 1, then you will see many more icons, open the one that looks like a blank computer screen with INSTALL written under it, then you should be able to handle it from there.




90f150moneypit


Do you have desktop dyno? I was wondering because this analyzer has brought on some confusion, as far as, I am concerned. If you punch in one of the smaller comp xe camshafts in a mild 351w combo you will lose torque and hp vs a stock 2V camshaft, doesn't that sound odd? Just wondering, maybe there is something I am not doing right. I read somewhere you almost have that stroker 418 together.

 

No, I don't have DD. That's strange.......maybe I will have to have you run my combo on it to see what it says. I know EA is pretty close when someone goes to a chassi dyno. But, I have to read the AVG numbers......these are usually close to their peak numbers.

The 418 is almost done, well the shortblock is together anyway. I'm waiting on my AFR's. Then once my wallet stops hurting, I'm ordering my custom cam (by Jay Allen) and the rest of it like the intake and carb. The headers are going to be my problem. I was going to have Pickerel (SP?) make up a set of 1 7/8 long tubes but I see they are no longer in business.............may have to live with small tubes...

 

Are you saying the EA program is giving Rwhp vs flywheel?


I don't think hes been outta business that long, maybe you can get him to make you a set.

Well that 418 should make for some fun, good luck

 

90f150moneypit


If you get a chance try this, using your EA analyzer.

Punch in 351w standard bore.
stock 70 heads, change the compression to 9:1
edelbrock performer intake
600 cfm street carb
typical exhaust manifold-typical production shorty headers
typical production 8 cylinder exhaust (300 cfm flow)

then punch in these three camshafts and watch the avg hp and tq

*stock 2V camshaft
*B1R WG- 1149 (same as paw 11329) blue racer
*B1R WG- 1108 (same as paw 10328 and edelbrock performer) blueracer


My results:

Stock 2V - avg hp 180 avg tq 266
B1R 1149 - avg hp 169 avg tq 257
B1R 1108 - avg hp 175 avg tq 260 (this is the edelbrock performer)


So now I am wondering how the 351w HO or 4V camshaft would do, its not listed and I don't have the specs but given the 2V does so well, it leaves a person with two way of thinking, either a mild cam swap is useless as compared to the stock 351w camshaft or somethings not right with the program or should I say something is missing that dramatically affects the results.... or the 2V 351w camshaft listed on the EA program might be the best kept secret for a mild combo...??...


Now compare the XE250H-10 and the XE256H-10 to the 2V and the avg hp and tq is still better with the stock 2V cam, weird huh?

 

Makes perfect sense. Look at the cam specs. Notice the 2V is 2 deg retarded (installed at 115 Intake centerline). Now look at the BLR 1149. It's 5 deg advanced (installed at 105 intake centerline).

The 2V cam is actually a bit bigger than the 1149 (@.050 lift).

Now, advance the 2V cam to 8 deg advanced and look at the curve. The intake centerline of the two are now the same.

Gotta look at all the specs, well basically the whole picture.

 

When I have time I'll list all of my 418 specs so you can compare EA to DD.

Ohh, and no I wasn't saying EA gives either FWHP or RWHP. Just that I have seen the AVG numbers match pretty close to RW numbers that I have seen.

 

Yeah you have a point, if you look at the specs it makes sense.

I am having trouble believeing that the 2v 351w camshaft specs listed are correct.

The comp XE 250 and 256 and edelbrock performer, are supposed to be an improvement over stock, but if the specs for the 2V are correct...then comp/crane/edelbrock dropped the ball. Right? Its not an improvement if you lose tq and hp. Know what I mean?

 

Don't know what cam they used for the example, but I remember a few stout 'stock' motors back in the day.....

Try this on DD.

Shortblock
351W
4.030 bore
4.1 Stroke (Scat Forged)
6" Rod (Scat I Beam's)
(28cc Dishtop SRP's)
No accessories/Elec Fan and water pump
Low windage
Lower Friction Pistons/Bearings

Cam (Solid Flat);
Intake Centerline ATDC - 106
Duration @.050 224
Max Lobe Lift .312
Lash .018
Rocker 1.6

Exhaust Centerline BTDC - 114
Duration @.050 224
Max Lobe Lift .312
Lash .018
Rocker 1.6

Lobe Seperation 110
Gross Lift .499

Heads
(AFR's aren't in the library, just change these numbers after choosing Performer RPM's)
AFR 185 58cc Chambers for 10.02CR
2.02/1.60 Valves
186 Ports Volume
Port Length 5inch
Intake flow Effinciency 56.5
Exh Flow Effinciency 57.9

Intake
Edelbrock RPM Airgap (Choose Typical Race Dual Plane)
Carb - 750 Vac Sec

Exhaust
Street Headers - 1 3/4" X 38"
Open Exhaust

Running conditions
STD Dyno
91 Octane
Coolant temp - 195 deg
RPMS---- Start 1000/ number of RPM's - 10/ Increment - 500/ Peak HP - 5500/ Int runner - 10

Let me know what you come up with......

 

I didn't run your combo but another fella did, he sent the information below, no graphs but peak figures and his thoughts. He previously downloaded the afr files, so he was able to actually use them, this was done on the latest version of desktop dyno.

This is what your combo looks like:

423 HP @ 5500 rpm
471 LB FT @ 3500 rpm

He thinks you need about 5 degrees more cam, and slightly narrower lobe separation. This is the results of that:

with my 230/235 .510/.515 lift solid cam
426 HP @ both 5000 & 5500 RPM
486 lb ft @ 3500 RPM

He thinks you need more lift as well.
Using 1.7 ratio rocker arms which raised the lift on his cam to .530 you get the following:

426 HP @ 5500 RPM
471 lb ft @ 3500 RPM

He commented, "While this doesnt look like much I noticed that the torque curve and the hp curve were fattened some."





If you have any questions let me know, I will ask. Looks like your gonna have a torque maker for sure. Later

 

i cant get ea to work

 

Can't get it to work as far as... ?

Will it download to your desktop? Trouble opening the program?