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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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I know the feeling, the fix my P O did was just big washers...
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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oh well i'll have to fix it the right way now
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Cracked firewall and flexing; sounds like a defect and safety issue; you would think Ford would want to fix it right through recall; "Built Ford Tough"!!1
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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ya but i'm to young to remember if they had a recall out for those trucks? i was born i 88. my truck is an 85 so i have no clue
i always thought it would suck if the clutch went to the floor and nothing happened
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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it would be a "service recall" where they service if it fails, and if you don't ask a dealer, you don't know about it. You'd be amazed at the number of recalls handled that way by ALL manufacturers.

Now you went and made me feel old, DT, I graduated when you were born!!!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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I have a question-

does everyone's ford's have an additional plate sandwitched between the clutch/brake master cylinder and and firewall??? I'm wondering b/c my '85's firewall is rusted badly, and it is working ok, but there is additional reinforcement. Did ford fix the problem in '83/'84?

here is a pic of my '84:
it is the flange / lip right above the master cylinder??

btw, when the clutch goes to the floor when you are driving, it DOES suck I'd to put on a new MC/SC 2weeks ago.. I had to drive home without a clutch.. starting from a total stop requires turning the truck off, shifting into granny, and hitting the starter

 

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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If I recall, there were at least two plates that the clutch master went through. The reinforcement is added inside the cab, where it is tougher to see. I still had the problem on my 86. It would always grind the gears, especially reverse. Now it doesn't, but the synchros on 4th must be damaged, I can't rpm match to shift into 4th very well, but can every other gear. If I clutch it, it shifts fine.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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My firewall is just plain rotted out. Both the firewall and the plate that holds the brake booster and clutch master are see through. This came to a crisis last winter, when I could not shift when plowing a parking lot. I made my own brackets on the inside and outside welded in. It has been okay, but I still feel it is temporary as the firewall /cowl is still rotting. I never had any cracks though. I think I have to cut the rotted area out and replace, either that or a new cab.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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sounds like your hitting that point of either retirement or replacement. It gets to a point when what you have is no longer reasonably salvageable, and either the cab or the truck get replaced. If you have floorpan issues as well, a cab would be recommended, at least that's my opinion.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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sorry about making ya'll feel old
my truck has a large thin plate of sheet metal behind the master cylinder but thats factory.
does teh reinforcement kit go under the dash or under the hood?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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When I took the kit off the junker, it was under the hood.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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The kit goes under the dash. 1/8", 1/4" & 5/16" drill bits. It will be easier if you have access to a right angle drill. Since you already have the clutch master cylinder, you may want to bolt the kit up with that and then mark your holes for mounting the plate to the firewall. If you are ordering the kit, it has step by step instructions on installation including the proper way to weld up and stop any cracks from progressing. As far as a recall from Ford, I don`t know, the instruction sheets I have are dated 7-86 so there could very well have been one. Something to look into. Ford should be paying for these problems, especially if they knew about it back before DT was born, but then again, that wasn`t all that long ago, lol! Now, what were we talking about?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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thanks so it goes under the dash. that looks like a pain.
i should be able to get my hands on a right angle drill
any tips?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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it goes under the dash, on the inside. If you think about it, that's the best place, it absorbs and spreads the pressure, rather than putting it on certain points like it would mounted to the engine side. Cosmetically it's better too, but that's secondary concern.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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I have one of the firewall repair kits. I bought it to repair an 83 but never got to use it. It looks like a very simple procedure to me.
 
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