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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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New Ford Pushrod V8

Bye Bye Mod Motors in Trucks!!!

http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosins...b01-165355.htm
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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That was written in May 04...kinda old news.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Wasn't the last news out there that they weren't sure if it was going to be pushrods or not? I hope they make it Dual Over Head Cams.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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I may have missed it, but where did it say it was going to be a pushrod???
I certainly hope its not going to be...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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There is (almost) no chance of the Hurricane being a OHV design again. To do so would simply say "Hey..we were wrong for the past DECADE in our motor designs, and the COMPETITION was right"

The OHC design allows for higher technology to bring about higher performance potential. I would be surprised if the Hurrican was bred anything BUT the DOHC pattern.

The retooling and design requirements of making a whole new pushrod block would NEVER pay for the cost involved. As it is..there's likely to be a great premium for owning this motor. But what a motor it will be!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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OHV would be Over Head Valve, witch I am sure of, as I havn't heard anything about Ford reviving the Flat Head.
Over head Cam engines allow for such technowlegies as
Varidable Valve Timing, and much higher rpm reliabilty.
A Lighter block
Lower valve spring pressure
Less moving parts to wear out

Ford doesn't need a push rod motor for the F150, It just needs a bigger engine.
Or low psi twin screw compresor pumping air into a dual overhead cam 5.4 with VVT.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 351 bronc
Ford doesn't need a push rod motor for the F150, It just needs a bigger engine.
Or low psi twin screw compresor pumping air into a dual overhead cam 5.4 with VVT.
How about both???
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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OK both !!!!!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see it as another 3 vlave/cylinder design. The 5.4 has very good torque/liter, better than the Hemi, and I expect that the Hurricane will have the same or more. With only 3 valves, compared with a 4 valve design, they can get by with just one cam per cylinder head, to keep weight and head size to a minimum. I expect at least 420 ft-lbs. HP I'm not so sure about because that all depends on where they want to put the powerband. I think 350 is probably a good ballpark if they decide to keep it at a reasonable RPM. I can't imagind that they would give it more HP than the V-10, as it would hurt it's sales. I'm sure that 400 HP is easily possible but it would require a pretty high (for a truck) RPM to achieve. I think if they focus more on a good flat torque curve, the HP isn't as important. That's why the Nissan Titan feels like more than 305 HP, because it has very good torque, and it gets it without having to rev very high. Who cares if you have 345 HP if you have to rev to 5400 RPM to achieve it. I'd hope to see HP peak at 5000 with a 5500 RPM redline. I think that a 6.2 will be a good displacement to split the difference between the V-10 and the 5.4. I'm sure it will be one hell of a motor when it's done, I just hope that they don't take forever to get it out, but not rush too fast and have it be like the 6.0 PSD's introduction.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 351 bronc
OHV would be Over Head Valve, witch I am sure of, as I havn't heard anything about Ford reviving the Flat Head.
If an engine is pushrod, I've always seen them referred to as OHV engines, while cammer's (SOHC, DOHC) are OHC. I wouldn't use the acronym (OHV in this case) if I didn't know what it stood for. Sorry to confuse you. Even if you were confused on this, my explanation later on as far as my point, ought to have cleared up what I "meant" to say.

The Hurricane is going to have a bit better on its Bore/Stroke isn't it? I hope so...the 5.4 has too much stroke...if the 6.2 gets alot of that by going to a bit bigger bore then Uh oh! I know torque is important in a truck engine, but I'd imagine this engine is going to be aimed more towards a Hemi/Endurance slayer. Give it the ability to rev out while still having all that torque nice and flat.

Come to think of it..they will probably make the 3V head work so that they can build up 'props' on it to make it look so much cooler for sales matters. "Look at us, our performance motor uses 3V head technology, just like your 5.4 work motor, and V10!"

I can't wait...I wish I coudl buy it ^_^
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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I think I read somewhere that the new Hurricane will replace the V-10. It would help bring the company's mpg average up a tad which it badly needs.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigF350
I may have missed it, but where did it say it was going to be a pushrod???
I certainly hope its not going to be...
agreed .... how much "growth" can be had with the 5.0 DOHC crate motor ? I love that motor and if that block has enough meat for boring and clearance for stroking ...

and with the carb intake under developement , that would be the next rodders darling
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Ford should offer a 6 cylinder in the F-150, or even a small diesel, that would bring the company's MPG up quite a bit.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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I believe the 4.2L V-6 is going to be an option for next year.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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read in the hemmings mucsle car book its gunna be OHV...
 
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