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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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The reason that most automobile makers went to a small bore, large stroke design was in order to get larger engines to pass smog. I'm not sure the FE would smog today.

I owned went through 2 360s and a 390 in my 74 F100, so I, too, am a fan.
Well, if chevy can smog a 8100 big block V8, why not something like an FE?

Remember, I didn't say bring back the FE (although it would be nice...). I said incorporate design elements like the deep skirt tall deck block, ~4.050" bore, and ~3.784" stroke. The heads can be designed for emissions, as can the pistons (move ring lands higher mainly).
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Well, if chevy can smog a 8100 big block V8, why not something like an FE?

Remember, I didn't say bring back the FE (although it would be nice...). I said incorporate design elements like the deep skirt tall deck block, ~4.050" bore, and ~3.784" stroke. The heads can be designed for emissions, as can the pistons (move ring lands higher mainly).
I think that would be a good idea. basically an updated 390 would be perfect, as would a 427.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jb1983
Actually some of the Ranger's (and formerly the Taurus) have the 3.0 Vulcan- which if im not mistaken is a pushrod, but its the only one I know of that is in production Fords.
I thought about it after I wrote that and forgot about the 3.0.
I didn't know the 4.2 was though, that is new info to me.

My first car was a truck.
76 F250 Camper Special, 390 C6
Bored 30 over with RV cam and close to 10:1 comp.
At about 160,000 miles spun the pinion bearing cup, blew the 3.73 gears out so went to 4.10.
Preaty fast for a full size.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Well, if chevy can smog a 8100 big block V8, why not something like an FE?

Remember, I didn't say bring back the FE (although it would be nice...). I said incorporate design elements like the deep skirt tall deck block, ~4.050" bore, and ~3.784" stroke. The heads can be designed for emissions, as can the pistons (move ring lands higher mainly).
Yeah, but the 8.1L bowtie puts out less power and torque than the 6.8L v10. In tuning it for emissions, it lost it's purpose for being a big motor.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Well it's a chevy, of course it will make less power.

The chevy 6.0L has a 4.0" bore, amazing it passes emissions.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Well it's a chevy, of course it will make less power.
True, true.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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I'm hopeing thats sarcasm considering as soon as GM re-works there engines i'm sure they will once again surpass ford for years too come...horsepower wise.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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The horsepower wars will always come and go, it is the way of the big three.
It has been that way since the fifties...it will be that way for a long time to come.
Until we start driving hovercraft powered by flux generator nuclear widgets….or what evers.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Until we start driving hovercraft powered by flux generator nuclear widgets….or what evers.
I'm still waiting to get a DeLorean with a hover conversion that way it'll be easier for the flux capacitor to reach 88 mph.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 73Fastbackv10
Yeah, but the 8.1L bowtie puts out less power and torque than the 6.8L v10. In tuning it for emissions, it lost it's purpose for being a big motor.
It didn't make less hp untill fords latest incarnation of the 6.8 which isn't even a year old yet
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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I want to own a new 6.8 V10 so bad. i mean i have driven my cousins 8.1 liter and it was one BAD BEAST, now that V10 has a higher output i really wanna drive it.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Yeah, I really like the Modular Ford Engines. I hear they last up to 500,000 miles. Other than that. I"m keeping my V10. Can't wait to either bore it or stroke it. Not to mention bolt on the 3v heads. OOooooooohhh nelly~..
 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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It didn't make less hp until fords latest incarnation of the 6.8 which isn't even a year old yet
502ci VS 415ci and Fords got them beat not only HP and TRQ but in fuel efficiency and longevity HANDS DOWN!!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 351 bronc
502ci VS 415ci and Fords got them beat not only HP and TRQ but in fuel efficiency and longevity HANDS DOWN!!
I have a friend that has an 8.1L in a GMC. I have a 6.8L V-10. His engine produces 340 hp and 455 ft lb tq. Mine is 310 hp and 425 ft lb. He gets 12.0 mpg (at best) and I average 13.5-14.0 mpg.

I like my Ford.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 11:32 PM
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Actually, the chevy 8.1L is rated at 330 hp/450 torque. The new 3V v10 is rated at 362 hp/457 torque. Both of those numbers are according to the December 2004 "Four Wheeler" magazine. The 200-04 v10s had the numbers that you mentioned.
 
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