That would probably not be an issue. It depends on the size tires you plan to run, and really, the D44 will limit that to ~37 and that would be pushing the envelope. If you have to add a ram, its likely something will break first.

 

~I BOW DOWN TO YOU~

that's badass

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You guys DO realize I was busting your chops when I said mud was more technical than rocks, didn't you? Funny, I mentioned the same thing over at pirate and didn't get much of a rise there, either. Just gotta keep you rock freaks in line

 

Hey who you callin a freak here.

 

I have a cj with narrowed 44 in the front and a 9in in the back 61in front and rear. The back is spooled and the front has a ARB. I use to run stock axels AMC20,Dana 30 front. The rear had a easy locker I had no problems with it. The 30 had a lock right. The locker in the front was the worst. Could not steer it to save my life, also every time I got the front end off the ground I would snap a u-joint.

When I put the 44 in the front with the ARB you can unlock it to turn it. I run 5:13 gears. I also run 38.5 super swampers. I get more gearing from a Ford t-18(6.32to1 1st gear) and the Dana 300 transfer case(2.32to1). I take it all over the midwest,Disney, The Bad Lands, Rock Port, Land Between the Lakes. I have never broke anything except drive shafts. I fixed that problem by running a CV shaft with DOM tubing. I wish I had a scanner to show you some of the pictures that I have taken.

The Dana 60 is a great front end, it just costs way to much to build. Used axel around here goes for $1,000 to $1500. You still have to gear it and put a locker in it. For the price of all of that you can go all out and put 21/2 ton Rockwells under it for about $1000 for both front and rear axels.

My next mod is going to be the hydraulic asset. That makes it really easy to turn. What ever you do research it as much as you can before you spend money on anything. Talk to people on the net, drive train shops and people at local events. There is so much out there.

 

ya know, i wasn't sure and i wasn't in the mood for tryping when i saw this so i let it go but i came close to defending my rock garden friends! you really should go ride with us over here in the east! most of the trails i run have pretty good sized rocks to get around/over but i'd say 90% of them have a good mushy spot at the base which makes everything very interesting!

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Fishmann I agree with you on the eastcoast we do have some big rocks with mud at the base or approach to the rocks. Specally down by you in Tellico. I've run all the trails down there many times. When it rains watch out for the mud running down the hills. Now it is differant when you run Paragon and Raush Creek. The rocks have pebbles in them wich does bite quite well in the wet conditions. But sometimes it bites back with that sound of snapping parts. I have found that it takes lot's of HP and a stout drivetrain to run these kinds of conditions. I started with a D44 up front with all high strength stuff but still snapped parts and went through many ball joints. When I jumped to 39.5" swammpers a D60 with hydro assist was the only answer to not break parts. I have a heavy foot!! So far after 2-years I have not broke any parts on the front axle. I did break my Rear D60 ring gear at Paragon.

 

i absolutely LOVE paragon! i was there a couple months back with ECBR for a weekend.....you ever been to WITC in Tenn?

i'm surprised your D44 held up to 35's and a hevay foot on the rocks!

i have never run Moab or The Con but i have to say it is a good bit different since it is mostly dry over there! i think those west coast boys would prolly have a rough time figuring out how to go about getting up some of these trails since it really isn't consider rock crawlin....more like rock racing!

-cutts-

 

ok i found this way cool video on pirate today and i thought i would share with those who don't know or have never experienced East coast wheelin. this is of Dan Dibble over at GrayRock, Alabama (only about hour and a half from my house!)

http://www.fototime.com/FED1BC332007341/conv.wmv

it just reiterates just how hard this stuff can be!

-cutts-

 

Fishmann where is witc in Tenn. never heard of that place. I'm always looking for new places on the east coast. I've done Tellico, Paragon, Rausch Creek PA, Big dogs in Winchester VA, Kentucky outback park, Natural bridge Kentucky, South Dakota Territory challenge, Perry Sound area in Canada plus some other places

 

Fishmann watched that video. All I can say is way cool. But it's a true picture of wheeling out on the east coast. Except there was no mud on the rocks. Kinda reminds me of myself with my foot in the gas.

 

lol...it wasn't muddy in that pic but if you look closely the rock is wet and has algae or some other slick covering on it!

WITC (wheelin in the country) is a private park i have been to several times. a pretty good drive from me but WELL worth it! it is located in Summertown, Tenn and they have a website which is http://www.wheelininthecountry.com/

-cutts-

 

Thanks for the link I have seen this place on the web. But how are the trails compared to Tellico and Paragon

 

fishman would not have seen that video if I did not show it to him this morning!

 

well it is quite similar to Tellico except it isn't quite as wet during the summer unless of course it rains. during the winter however it pretty much stays wet from the snow and what not. the BEST advantage is that since this is a private park if you go on a regular day and not when they are having an event you won't hardly see anybody! it is VERY nice...you are truely going out in the outdoors and can have fun with just your group rather than have to wait on some jeep or sami at tellico that can't make it over an obstacle. also Darron (the owner) has a full time mechanic and shop on his property so if ya break something just head back to camp and fix whatever ya broke!

yes the credit is yours.....you did find it! thanx jopey

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