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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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The beast update.

Long story short, took some time to really think it over and now it is not a "Beast". It is more of a "Big" truck project. Hear is where I am now.
Sterling 10.25" Full Float, D60 DRW, NP205 (divorced), C6 and built 390.
I have the rear axle hung. I did a shackle flip with F250 hangers and shackles. I am now considering how to do the front D60. Leaf or coils. The 76 F150 frame is a 2wd so the coil buckets are there. Other than that all the susbension brackets have to be fabed. If it makes a difference I will be running 46x19x16.5 Baja Claws.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Get to hear that you got your project up and started. Anyway if you went with coil springs i would resomended using a 3" coilover, but that can get pricey. But going coil springs means that will need a trac bar, radius arms or some sort of 4 link, and the 4 link again can get troublesome when not done just right. But for simplicties sake (and for reliability as well since you are using 46" claws) i would use a soft ride leaf, then set it up the same way Pro has his hung. that is hangers in the front shackles in the rear, then to get the lift you want hang the brackets down however many inches of lift that you desire.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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good to hear your making more progresss than myself, why dont you come over and help me out some? keep up the good progress
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Thanks, I was thinking of useing 2x2x.25 or 2x3x.1875 square tube for radius arms. mounted where the sway bar mounts to the axle. then running the arms up to the front of the T case cross member. I would be useing a track bar also. Any thoughts? Would this make my front squat when on the gas?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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If it makes a difference I will be running 46x19x16.5 Baja Claws.
Randy - Sounds like it's comin' along pretty good. Any reason why you went with a 16.5inch rim? Not that you'll probably ever need to air down with a tire that big, but I know airing down on a 16.5inch rim is a big no no with the size of the bead on the rim (unless you're running beadlocks). I could be mistaken but that's what I've been told about my 16.5 rims (running 37x12.50's). Just thought I'd throw it out there.

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I never heard that about the 16.5 rims before.
But then again I am a newby.
The 8 lug, 12" wide M/T Classic II rims I wanted only come in 16.5".
I didn't have much choice.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I have 8 lug 16.5x10 Eagle rims and was told by a few different tire/off road shops not to air down lower than about 25lbs with 16.5inch rims. Maybe they're feeding me a bunch of bull.

Anyone else heard this before?

Regardless, with 49x19 inch tires, I can't seem to think of any circumstance where you'd need to air down a whole lot, those have a HUGE footprint....
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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I like the 16.5" rim, Easy to mount tires by your self and a lot of big tire companies build tires for them, when I bought my 44"s the guys at shwab told me they would not mount a tire over 40" for liabilaty reasons, so the ease of mounting the 16.5" tire & wheels help me out a lot there,

About the no airing down, I use to run a set of ultra 589 wheels 12x16.5 with a set of 39.5-18-16.5 boggers and they were never over 20 psi, usually between 10 & 15 psi, that was in the mud, but on my street pickup running 38" on 16.5X10" wheels I ussaly run 15-20 psi without a problem,
I have blown a bead two times but both were pretty extreme circumstances,
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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The 16.5" rims have no safety bead meaning if you air them down far you run a good chance of having them peel off the rim. Not a big deal for a mall crawler but if you plan to use your truck they can sometimes be an issue. 16" rims would be the way to go if you can OR buy a set of 16.5" beadlocks (this is what I'm doing . . . if they ever arrive).

Randy, I though you said you didn't care what the truck looked like. If this is the case then why are you stuck on M/T Classic II rims? Seems silly to me.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Keep in mind that the real bead locks are not street leagal, you may not have a problem but if jonny law wants to be a pain it could end up costing you,
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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That is a myth. There are some street legal beadlocks. Randy, look around and I'm sure you'll see some that will work for you.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Skipped_link, not to start an argument here but first off there are beadlock rims which are DOT approved, I have a set coming from USA6X6. There are a couple other companies making them as well. Secondly Champion has gone to court on 2 or 3 occasions about the legality of beadlocks and they won every time. This is not to say that your local yocals won't harass you about it a little but they ARE legal for use on the street. If you're concerned about it buy from a company that has spent the extra coin to put a DOT stamp on them.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Thats a good point that Ivan brought up, and an interesting one too. ALL beadlocks might be legal. But, to keep jonny law off your tail you can always get a DOT approved beadlock set like Ivan did. Heck, his are even double beadlocks. Can't wait to see him rolling on those. They'll look sweet.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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To be honest I can't see blowing the money on beadlocks unless they're doubles. Regular beadlocks still won't prevent your inner bead from coming loose.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Is it harder to keep those balanced than a single beadlock or even a regular rims?

I have "normal" rims with 37's and have a hell of a time trying to keep those stupid tape weights on. I keep telling the guys to put duct tape on 'em when they're done but they never do.... I've tried the hammer on weights too but they can't get 'em close enough. It could be my driveshaft that's making the truck shake so that's my next purchase. ugg....

Doh! I just realized I'm kinda jackin' the thread, sorry Randy.
 

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