i got a 359ft block
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i got a 359ft block
hi there,
i a 359ft block engine in my 74 f600 flat bed truck, i need to know if a 2bbl carb off a 360 fe block will it work on the 359ft block,thank you for any help you can give me,
gene,
i a 359ft block engine in my 74 f600 flat bed truck, i need to know if a 2bbl carb off a 360 fe block will it work on the 359ft block,thank you for any help you can give me,
gene,
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I think it will. You will need the timing cover off the FT engine though, so dont throw that out. The crank snout is bigger on the FT crank than the FE crank, but the FT crank will fit in the FE block. Also you'll need to use an FE distributor. I dont think you'll have any problems with motor mounts, but check their location before you start.
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I 'm confused. Why does he need an timing cover to change carbs?
I think the 360 carb will be a bolt on. Just check for all the plumbing an dlinkage connections. I don't see why they would be different...but I've been fooled before.
I think the 360 carb will be a bolt on. Just check for all the plumbing an dlinkage connections. I don't see why they would be different...but I've been fooled before.
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Originally Posted by gtex
I 'm confused. Why does he need an timing cover to change carbs?
I think the 360 carb will be a bolt on. Just check for all the plumbing an dlinkage connections. I don't see why they would be different...but I've been fooled before.
I think the 360 carb will be a bolt on. Just check for all the plumbing an dlinkage connections. I don't see why they would be different...but I've been fooled before.
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Oh, I thought he wanted to change blocks. Speed reading and such. Never mind.
That's what I figured.
While we are here. What is the difference between the 359 and 361?
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In my Motor's Truck Repair Manual 1979, it lists the 359 for ONLY 1977, same bore and stroke as the 361, and NO spec on compression, HP or torque. But, it does have a distributor spec for '73 for the 359 - weird.
Anyway, in '77, it lists piston clearance, crank pin diameter, rod bearing clearance, etc etc the same as the 361, 389 391, etc. etc. - basically all FT motors.
Anyway, in '77, it lists piston clearance, crank pin diameter, rod bearing clearance, etc etc the same as the 361, 389 391, etc. etc. - basically all FT motors.
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Was this F600 an ex-Uhaul? If i'm not mistaken the Ford F600 "rentals" came with the 359's. They actually have a couple different components to withstand the rigors of a rental unit. Including a different cam and rock bottom compression if i'm not mistaken. Although it isn't mentioned much the rental units do have different "renter-proof" components than the regular production units-esp. the U-Hauls.
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Hd 359 Hd
Hello all,<O:p</O:p
I know this is an old thread, but I found it doing a search, and it is on the razor's edge of the information I need. <O:p></O:p>
I recently acquired a 1978 F600, Former Uhaul, 3 speed plus X-Lo, with HD 359 HD on the right rocker cover. From the search I have derived that it is a FT 359, and kind of exclusive to Uhaul trucks If anyone can offer advice, or a link to information about it, such as timing specs, operating rpm, fuel and lubrication requirements, tune up info, etc, it would be great. I was going to just treat it as a FE 360, but the info in the last post about compression, etc, has me nervous.<O:p></O:p>
I have a 500cfm Holley 2bbl, and a paper filter I was considering, but was worried if that would effect the vacuum brakes and such. The original carb is rough at best, and oil bath is so old school, but if it is needed, I'll keep it. Any help appreciated.<O:p></O:p>
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Thanks, Roy<O:p></O:p>
I know this is an old thread, but I found it doing a search, and it is on the razor's edge of the information I need. <O:p></O:p>
I recently acquired a 1978 F600, Former Uhaul, 3 speed plus X-Lo, with HD 359 HD on the right rocker cover. From the search I have derived that it is a FT 359, and kind of exclusive to Uhaul trucks If anyone can offer advice, or a link to information about it, such as timing specs, operating rpm, fuel and lubrication requirements, tune up info, etc, it would be great. I was going to just treat it as a FE 360, but the info in the last post about compression, etc, has me nervous.<O:p></O:p>
I have a 500cfm Holley 2bbl, and a paper filter I was considering, but was worried if that would effect the vacuum brakes and such. The original carb is rough at best, and oil bath is so old school, but if it is needed, I'll keep it. Any help appreciated.<O:p></O:p>
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Thanks, Roy<O:p></O:p>
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I have a Motor's Truck Repair manual, and the 359 shows up in '77 only and has NO specs listed - just that it existed.
I'd dare say it's a 361, but governed at 3300RPM (it at least shows that spec), the 361 was governed at 3600. For all I know, that could be the only difference.
Go for it with the Holley... can't hurt. I can't think of any reason the oil bath air filter would change the vacuum - the vacuum is pulled from the intake manifold and the air filter should not effect it - that is, of course, as long as there's nothing else on the oil bath except the carb.
I'd dare say it's a 361, but governed at 3300RPM (it at least shows that spec), the 361 was governed at 3600. For all I know, that could be the only difference.
Go for it with the Holley... can't hurt. I can't think of any reason the oil bath air filter would change the vacuum - the vacuum is pulled from the intake manifold and the air filter should not effect it - that is, of course, as long as there's nothing else on the oil bath except the carb.
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Cool, Thanks- The rpm was a worry, I'll stick a tach in it and get used to the sound of the engine, keeping it below 3300. Shouldn't be hard, I used to have a Diesel. I should be able to "feel" it with a good tune, anyway. I'm going to tune it by ear, although I'm not sure what plugs to buy, and I'll try 10w40 oil, I guess. With the low compression, 87 octane and timing close to strait up should work. There is some odd gizmo on the distributor, not sure about it, may unhook it when checking the timing.
Thanks Again.
Thanks Again.
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I'd use 15w40 oil in it. It's diesel rated and has a more robust additive package. It works great in gas motors too, and I'm sure your 359 would like it.
I'd get a timing light, and set the timing to 10 degrees BTDC. The odd gizmo is probably the vacuum advance. Pull the hose(s) that go to it when setting timing, plug 'em back in when you're done.
I'd set the plug gap to .035". That seems to work good on old stock stuff. New plugs, plug wires, points*, cap, and rotor, and you should be in business. I'd specify plugs for a 1975 F100 with a 360, in your favorite brand. They should work well.
*If it's got electronic ignition, which it probably does now that I think about it, forget the points.
I'd get a timing light, and set the timing to 10 degrees BTDC. The odd gizmo is probably the vacuum advance. Pull the hose(s) that go to it when setting timing, plug 'em back in when you're done.
I'd set the plug gap to .035". That seems to work good on old stock stuff. New plugs, plug wires, points*, cap, and rotor, and you should be in business. I'd specify plugs for a 1975 F100 with a 360, in your favorite brand. They should work well.
*If it's got electronic ignition, which it probably does now that I think about it, forget the points.