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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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shop air lines

Just wondering what everyone uses to plumb their shop for air. I was going to use 1/2" black pipe and wondering if anyone else wanted to add their 2 cents.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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Schedule 40 (heavy wall) pvc works good and is easy to work with. Will hold the pressure no problem if glued right, and is pretty cheap too. Will never rust either. Secure it well at connectors though, because it can't take a lot of stress/pulling.
One other thing... If you are going to run water traps, don't install right at compressor. Put them as far away as possible, so the air can cool before it reaches them. They are more effective this way.

Had to edit this post after reading some other threads warning against pvc usage for compressed air. Used it for years in a commercial shop with no problems, but might have to re-think that in the future. I might still use it, but perhaps with some shielding.... if that doesn't run the price up to the point that it's equal to the alternatives....
 

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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I just have a 60' hose I drag every where
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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Not saying I am right, PVC is a direct explosive when shattered by impact. I know it has a high burst pressure, but when contacted by an object it will explode.

Stay with the metal for safety.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Please read the third and forth post of this thread...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=99689
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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1/2 inch black iron pipe all the way around. Relatively cheap and a pretty easy install. Turned out super.

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Did you have plenty of volume? I hear people saying that 3/4 would be better but I will only be using the shop myself and I can only use 1 tool at a time. Besides if you have 1/2 coming out of the compressor how could you get more volume than that? I have started with the 1/2 and I am figuring out the drops as I go. One tip I've learned is putting tees in place of couplers that way you can add on in the future if nesassary.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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Warning!! This is something I know from personal experience do not use pvc. I used it in my shop for years with no problems then one day I turned on my compressor wnen it knocked off this stuff exploded with unbelievable force.A friend told me later that oil from compressors affects both pvc and glue joints. I was very lucky it was like a hand grenade going off.Also be aware black iron rusts internally and pieces will pass thru your expensive air tools.I also learned this the hard way. Use the grey sch.80 it won't explode like white sch.40.It
is not that much more expense.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Eric has a sticky post at the top of this forum with lots of great info on why NOT to use any type of PVC for pressurized air lines. This subject has really been beat to death over the years and is really beyond debate. Please don't use PVC for compressed air. Yes, they make a special compound for compressed gases, but it's a special order, ($$$), item - not readily available at the hardware store.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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DO NOT USE PVC OR CPVC, EITHER SCHEDULE 40 OR SCHEDULE 80, FOR COMPRESSED AIR!

Please read the FAQ's at the top of the 'Garage and Workshop' forum page. It is not designed for this type of application. It is only designed for the conveyance of liquids.

As a Pipefitter/Plumber w/ 15+ years experience, My first recommendation would be threaded galvinized pipe. A 3/4" main, for added volume, with 1/2" branches. At the bottom of my drops I would install tees; pull my air off the side outlet, install a 6" nipple and ball valve on the bottom outlet to trap water and pipe scale.

A copper tube system could be used, but I have always used a brazing alloy, such as J.W. Harris Dynaflow. The problem with this is the high torch temp, needed to make the joint, may cause a fire or an explosion. Also, after the installation is complete, make sure to " blow down" each branch. The oxidation caused by the high heat will leave a black residue in the system which should be removed prior to use.

A 'Soft' solder could be used if vibration from compressor is isolated. With any compressed air/copper system, use at least "L" copper tube. "M" copper has too thin of a sidewall and is to easily pierced.
 

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Copper piping

What about using copper for air lines
 
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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Copper works. It does not shatter like pvc and while probably not as good as black iron or galvanized, it's easier to work by the average person.
 
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I use copper pipe and I have seen PVC blow up.
 
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i think some things can't be improved with time. screwing together steel pipe is one of those things. i plumbed 1 shop with pvc and i really wasn't crazy about it. it was too flimsy when you connected or disconnected your air lines. i don't work there anymore so i don't have to worry about getting blown up but i'm going with the steel.....
 
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Originally Posted by maverick man
i think some things can't be improved with time. screwing together steel pipe is one of those things. i plumbed 1 shop with pvc and i really wasn't crazy about it. it was too flimsy when you connected or disconnected your air lines. i don't work there anymore so i don't have to worry about getting blown up but i'm going with the steel.....
You might want to warn the owner or workers in that "other shop" about the hazards before someone is injured or killed.

PVC is great for sewer pipe but I use copper for water and steel for air. 3/4" runs with 1/2" drops should be quite adequate for home shops. Read what Smokin_Superduty has to say above.
 
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