Well, I guess Dodge will stand out on top for a few more years, But It does make you think what Ford is cooking up back in SVT for the new L. It may be the same time frame as it was between the 95 L and the 99 L. When Ford came out with the 99 L, Look at what a machine that it was... Id say there just putting the Icing on the Cake if you ask me..

 

It better not waite until 2008, I was so dissapointed that they didn't release a L in the new body style in 04 then I heard it would be 05, then 06 and now 08, that is very dissapointing, even though I probably wouldn't be able to afford one on my income, but if I could I would sell my soul for one, as long as it was offered with the 6 speed manual transmission, I could live with that.

 

I just pray they go all out. It would be crazy if they would change the internals on that 6.8 V10 block and supercharge it like the 5.4 and 4.6. Throw a 6 speed under it and a "new" 9 inch rear end. Can you say CRAZY? That would be an awsome setup and the V10 is only a $600 upgrade over the V8 on a superduty so it wouldn't cost that much more in the L.

 

I'll bet it makes the aftermarket parts business better from a consumer side of it. Instead of mfr's making new parts for the Gen III, they'll have no choice but to concentrate on more new Gen II parts.

Also, the prices of used L's won't crash like the C5 Vettes did. The value of our L's will hold for awhile. Good news for me since I am looking at getting a 250 psd crew for next year.

 

one of the reasons for no svt's in 05 is that they have been busy with the ford gt. i think the mustang will be back in 06 but that was just somthin i read a while ago. as for the L im not sure but i want one when it does come out. i think they should just slap the shelby cobra v10 and its drive train but not sure how well a trany in the back would workout in a truck but it would be prety sweet. i think 605 hp is better that 500 but thats just me.

 

Who ever said Dodge was on top? I haven't even seen an SRT10 on the street and the times I've seen for them aren't that impressive. Never mind that you can't tow anything with them and the cargo capacity is seriously compromised. The Lightning is still the baddest TRUCK on the block. The SRT10 is nothing but a rebodied Viper.

Ford's issue with the trans on the new Lightning isn't about making it live with the power. It's about getting it to live in front of a 5000 lb trailer. They want it to be a truck that is useful as a truck.

 

You know guys, I love my Ford's and would prolly never have anything besides a Ford, but sometimes you guys just say the stupidest things. What times have you seen that arent impressive? 0-60 in just over 5 seconds? What do you mean you can tow anything w/the SRT10? It has a 7500 lb towing capability. Now I do have to say that if I was in the market for a sport truck like this, the Lightning would be my hands down choice, not because I'm ridiculously biased, but because it is cheaper by about 12 grand and w/that extra money you can do alot of stuff with. So the Dodge goes 160, the L goes 150, but where are you gonna be able to open it up at? LOL. I just hope this rumor is false and the new L will be out soon http://www.svt.ford.com/flash/index.html Click on View the Lightning Concept

 

Where did you get that 7500 lb tow rating from? Talk about saying the stupidist things. I guess the spec sheet that Dodge has on their website is wrong. You can tow with the 4 door SRT 10 (which has an auto trans), but that isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. The Lightning is rated at 1400 lbs payload and 5000 lbs towing. The SRT10 regular cab is 900 lbs payload and towing not recommended.

When I see consistent times from an SRT 10 that are faster than a stock Lightning I'll believe it. So far the only times I've seen (granted, I haven't looked that hard) were 13.30's in the dead of winter on track at sealevel that hooked great. My truck went 13.48 stock on a pitiful track surface at 700 ft. I would say those are pretty comparable. If the Dodge has any advantage it isn't enough of one to declare it a Lightning killer. The Doge might have 500 hp (probably pretty close, I've seen dyno #'s of 450 rwhp), but it also weighs around 500-600 lbs more than the L. The L is only down about 70 hp in the real world because they are grossly underrated. The power to weight ratios are pretty close. We should also put 4.56 gears in a L and see how it runs.

If the L didn't have an auto trans it would probably run just as fast as the Dodge. They only claim 150 mph on the SRT10, I think the record is 152.xxxxmph. That's only a few mph faster than the record the L set.

 

what the hell is the point of building a truck where towing is not recomended? so where is that crapy company called gm, when are they going to have a 500 hp truck?

 

Lets all send them a fax or letters like that group did!!!!

 

I'll say this, with-holding the release of a new L also allows for retention of value on existing L's as well. If MOPAR keeps producing it's bad boy, the over-all re-sale value will drop because they become a dime a dozen. It's a lot like us Canadians driving down south with a Mercury pick-up...same as the Ford expect for the tags on it, and yet Americans don't have them. The Mercury line of truck was never offered in the states. Dodge had the same concept for a while with their Fargo line of trucks, and yet it was the identical rig to the comparable year of Dodge trucks, but not offered in the states. The difference being, Fargo was Dodge's world-wide (outside of the USA) selling name, and used a globe for it's hood ornament or grill emblem, where the Merc pick-ups were Canadian only.

 

I don't know where you guys are getting that the superduty trannys won't fit in the LIghtnings. All the lightnigs have 4R100 trannys wich come drictly from the Superduty trucks with the diesels. I doubt that Ford couldn't get them to hold up either as the Lightnings may have 500hp but the diesels have more torque wich is what is going to kill the tranny faster. The SRT-10s don't have a tow rateing. They don't even come with a reciever in the back. The extended cab versions are supposed to but are they even out yet? The performance of the SRT-10s is pretty unimpressive. For a truck that is supposed to have that much more power you'd think it would be a little more than .2 sec. in the quarter faster. Hopefully the new Lightning will be out soon but until we see it on the showroom everything we hear is roumors.

 

Maybe they postponed in favor of the equally fast chipped 6.0 PSD

 

Good point!

 

Yea, don't look for GM to offer anything close to being competetive. They would rather make a crew cab n.a. all wheel drive truck and call it a Super Sport. Form the same company that said, hey, lets not make anymore Camaros or Trans Ams..

yikes. What a bunch of clowns...