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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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The time has come...

to start my build. I have all the parts rounded up, everything ready to throw together. For those that forgot (it's been a LONG time coming...) here's my build:

1. C7AE-A heads, gasket matched on the intake ports to work with the RPM intake. Chambers polished to a mirror finish. Exhaust ports polished to a mirror finish and slightly ported.
2. Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, currently residing on my 360.
3. Crane 343941 cam, lifters, and valve springs
4. Adjustable rocker arms and pushrods
5. 390 crank, block .030" oversize, 396.5ci
6. 1.776" compression height TRW L2291F30 forged pistons
7. ~9.7:1 compression
8. Hedman headers, dual exhaust
9. Holley Commander 950 4-barrel TBI fuel injection, 700cfm

DD2k shows 382hp @ 5000rpm, and 435ft-lbs @ 3500rpm. I think that's optimistic, I might see 350hp. Still, that will kick butt for what I'm doing! And if I want more, the forged pistons will allow me to pump in the nitrous like no tomorrow if I ever want to go that route.

The short block will be going together tomorrow, and the cylinders will be finished porting before the end of the week. Should be running by the middle of the month.

Questions, comments? Post 'em! Now! Dont be afraid!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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It sounds awesome, cant wait for you to get it running.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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Be sure you break in the cam right, DO NOT LET IT IDLE. and make sure your oil pressure is good at start up or you could fry your main bearings
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Good luck. Sounds like a well matched build.

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Well Kurt, here are some back up #s I ran on the Engine Analyzer 3.....

Open Headers 1 3/4"
Timing set 4* advance
I wasnt sure on the port volume of your heads so I use slightly smaller than CJs
that are 140cc...I went with 120cc?
And 719cfm on your FI

Here's what i got...

393hp @ 5000rpm
441lbs of TQ, @ 4000rpm
190lbs of TQ @ 1500rpm..

I could get alot closer if I new all the particulars...

Russ
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Sounds fun. I remeber when I first started my rebuilt engine, it was cranking, and cranking forever until finally it began to rock, and smoke and sputter and eventually growl to life! It was excting! I ran the truck with no hood for 2 weeks. The rear tires also needed replacing within a week. Make sure you post a video of first startup!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I'll definately post a vid. Dont know where, I might try to host it myself but that might turn into a crapshoot. Oh and russ, try slightly bigger than stock C7 / C8 / D2's. I'm not porting them a whole heck of a lot. You meant 4* cam advance? I'm installing that straight up. Ignition advance will start at 10*. I figured a swept volume of 812.21cc per cylinder, and a total combustion volume of 93.28cc per cylinder.

I'm getting excited. I'm going to get the RTV and other sealers so I can assemble the short block today.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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OK Kurt, as soon as I find what they are stock I'll run it thru again, I still have your build in the system, so it will be just a matter of changing cam advance to straight
up and change port CCs....

Russ
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Well I found the size of the port H-1.660" and w-1.645" the Sim came up with the volume... and the cam straight up you gained a little HP but dropped a little torque..

405hp @ 5500rpm
429lbs of tq.@ 4000rpm
and 216lbs of tq.@ 1500rpm..

Note..this is running just like a dyno!! NO accessories are powered...just the engine as it would be on a dyno....I can run it with real world accessories!! I'll do that and post!!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
to start my build. I have all the parts rounded up, everything ready to throw together. For those that forgot (it's been a LONG time coming...) here's my build:

1. C7AE-A heads, gasket matched on the intake ports to work with the RPM intake. Chambers polished to a mirror finish. Exhaust ports polished to a mirror finish and slightly ported.
2. Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, currently residing on my 360.
3. Crane 343941 cam, lifters, and valve springs
4. Adjustable rocker arms and pushrods
5. 390 crank, block .030" oversize, 396.5ci
6. 1.776" compression height TRW L2291F30 forged pistons
7. ~9.7:1 compression
8. Hedman headers, dual exhaust
9. Holley Commander 950 4-barrel TBI fuel injection, 700cfm

DD2k shows 382hp @ 5000rpm, and 435ft-lbs @ 3500rpm. I think that's optimistic, I might see 350hp. Still, that will kick butt for what I'm doing! And if I want more, the forged pistons will allow me to pump in the nitrous like no tomorrow if I ever want to go that route.

The short block will be going together tomorrow, and the cylinders will be finished porting before the end of the week. Should be running by the middle of the month.

Questions, comments? Post 'em! Now! Dont be afraid!

OK Kurt, in the real world! with your engine properly tuned etc.
and running your add ons, power steering,clutch fan, alt, ETC...

386HP @ 5500rpm
415lbs of TQ @ 4000rpm
208lbs of TQ @ 1500rpm

I think your set there young Man!!!

Russ.....this was all done on the Performance Trends Engine Analyzer 3.2

Keep On Truckin!!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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sounds pretty nifty there rusty! i'm setting my new bullit in this weekend. it should be pretty easy with no front sheet metal to get in the way. i just installed new metal kingpins and poly bushings and power disc brakes. it ought to be a new driving experience for me. good luck on the build dude, look forward to the video.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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I just got the oil pan painted. There was an unbelieveable amount of sludge in it. This was the one off the $35 junkyard 360. Thank the Lord for Castrol Super Clean. Wonderful stuff. Permatex rust remover saved me some work also. I also have the lifters soaking in Kendall GT-1 Nitro 70 oil. I push down on 'em with a pushrod to bleed the air out of 'em. I dont like hearing 5 minutes of lifter clacking on startup. The pistons are on the rods, and the rings are on the pistons. The oil pickup was full of sludge, and I cant find the one that came with the 390. So, I'll have to order one. Oh well. On the agenda for tomorrow is cleaning off the block (more castrol super clean...) and plastigauge the mains. Wish me luck!

386hp???!!! Wow. I wasn't ready for that. I'll have to take it to the dyno after I get it all tuned and everything.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Hey Rusty, do they have those pistons in the 1.675" CR height. If so i think those would be best for my stroker 416.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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I know someone makes pistons in that compression height, but I dont think TRW does.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Darn, I know Ross has a set but there $540.00!!!
 
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