Modded or stock compare them after 200 K , Well pass im on the side of the road!

 

I thought the diesel was about a $4500 option over the V10. I think the kenne bell supercharger is about $4000-wouldn't the supercharger be enough to smoke the stock 6.0. then.

 

IMO yes with the supercharged v-10... it is gone against a stock 6.0

 

Then you add a $350 programmer to the diesel and the super charged V10 is left in a cloud of diesel smoke.

 

That one could be very close.....

 

I think the diesel is far easier to get to "mild" state of tuning, but ultimately not much will stop the V10 if you have an unlimited budget.
I don't have a whole lot of proof of this, but my 5.4 makes around 700hp at the flywheel relatively easily
(check out my chassis dyno graph in my gallery https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=55571&width=2)
if I start piling on the boost it could exceed 1000hp.... and then if I added NOS...
Imagine what would be possible with an extra two cylinders...

I know it would cost a lot of money, and fuel consumption would be thrown out the window, and yes you would have to fill up with premium, but if you are attempting to build the ultimate Super Duty I don't think you would care... I know I wouldn't.

 

It would be fun to take the new 10 and a blank check....I know mine was fast, pass anything except a gas station....could not pull like I needed, but a very very smooth engine.

 

Sorry about the thread resurrection but, is that a two cam or four cam 5.4??

Also with unlimited funds you could do quite a bit with a 6.0L.

 

4 Cam...

You get quite a bit out of an unlimited budget 6.0l, but I think ultimately the V10 has more potential.

 

I would say if you did extensive mods to the V-10......heads would be the first thing to go bye bye....I also doubt if any exist in the aftermarket section of your speed shop isle. Anyone? Bueller?

I know Chryslers V-10 heads should come with zippers for R&R.

 

I would personally like to fabricate up some 4V DOHC heads for a V10 if I ever tried to go "all out"...

They can handle some serious air.

 

there are limitations in a gasser that u just dont have in a diesel. if we are talking unlimited budjets, the diesel will triple the output of a gasser. i could build a 4-turbo setup for the diesel and press 350+ psi. were talking thousands of ft-lbs. no driveline made for a 6.0 (or anything stock even a peterbuilt) would take it for long.

u can only go so far with the gasser. if were usin premium gas, 20psi is about ur limit. thats 1000 horse if its really well tuned. and it wont last very long. and ur not goin for a cruise anywhere in it!!!!

 

Go over to the V10 forum with those point and there will be some feathers ruffled....but i want to see it...the V10 guys dont like to hang around the diesel guys too much....there noses and ears are too weak....HAHAHAHA

 

Since I have driven a modded V10 and now own a 6.0, I need to make a few points here. About the only thing I didn't add to my V10 was a supercharger and drugs. Since this V10/PSD thing continues every year, one must realize either engine will do the job. BOTH have pros and cons. Remember it's what you do with yours that is the biggest difference. Some here are strictly towing, others pure dragging/pulling, and the rest just read the posts.

COSTS: If you took the money you saved buying a stock V10 over the stock PSD and added a Whipple, the PSD would be left at the line all day long. In a STRICTLY dollar for dollar spent on HP & TQ sense, the PSD will take the V10s lunch money every day.

 

I am not all that familiar with the 6.0l, but I assume that you would be manufacturing a much stronger block than stock to take 350+psi (that is some serious boost I may add - the most I have ever seen in a Diesel was 80).
Am also curious as to what kind of fuel system would be required to deliver the required amount of fuel for that.

There are many different things that could be done with the V10 (and remember this is all theoretical).
You could run it on 130RON Avgas for starters, and if its purely going to be a drag vehicle, methanol.
To make it run on pump gas though, you could simply lower the compression ratio (losing efficiency, and throttle response, but allowing much higher boost pressure to be used).

I think 20psi would gain a LOT more than 1000hp. I know of a 4.0l inline 6 that makes 1163hp with 22psi of boost from a turbo. Nothing else.
A 6.8l V10 is going to making a whole lot more than that.

And for durability, some serious $$$ in the bottom end of the engine should solve that, remember almost everything from the 5.4 can be fitted to the V10.

I think a well built twin turboed V10 would have any PSD's measure.
While I am a big fan of diesels, their inability to rev (a V10 should be able to rev to around 6500-7000 without serious damage), kills them in the power stakes, which racing is all about.