Poor braking problem fixed.
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Poor braking problem fixed.
My 77 never stopped well. I have owned it 13 years and have put over 100k on it. It always felt like it did not have full power assist, I had to really push hard. I had replaced rear shoes, drums, wheel cylinders, hardware, front pads (twice), calipers, rotors, propotioning valve, and master cylinder over the years with no change. I was about to try a power booster.
Today I replaced the current semi-metalic front pads (Performace Friction Carbon Metalics, $78.00 at the time) with cheap organic pads. It now stops easy and in half the distance. I can hardly belive it was pad related. I can't say that if you have same problem this is the cure but for $25.00 it won't hurt to try. Wish I had been more of a cheap skate 13 years ago. Sometimes you don't get a better part just because you spent more.
Today I replaced the current semi-metalic front pads (Performace Friction Carbon Metalics, $78.00 at the time) with cheap organic pads. It now stops easy and in half the distance. I can hardly belive it was pad related. I can't say that if you have same problem this is the cure but for $25.00 it won't hurt to try. Wish I had been more of a cheap skate 13 years ago. Sometimes you don't get a better part just because you spent more.
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I have had great luck with the Performance Friction carbon metallic pads. I run them on all of my vehicles now. A semi metallic pad is different. The organic pads have always faded out for me and did not last very long. The organic pads do grab quick tho. A number of years ago a few sets of pure carbon fiber pads were made available for testing but those would scare the hell out of joe-blow users because when you first applied them nothing happened. I had a set and loved them but I could not recommend them for the average user.
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From: oklahoma
the carbon metalics require heat to work properly, unless you do a lot of stop and go or heavy braking they dont work very good. they will not fade like the others, you just have to get some heat in them first.
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The pure carbon pads had the heat up "problem" but the carbon metallics seem to work well. When I had my pure carbon brake pads I thought about pulling one pad on each side and replacing it with a regular semi-metallic pad and saving the pure carbon pad for a second "pad replacement" when required. I just never found one of those Round TUIT's anywhere. The pure carbon pads were very easy on the rotors. The "combo" solution might have given me the best of both worlds.
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A number of years ago a few sets of pure carbon fiber pads were made available for testing but those would scare the hell out of joe-blow users because when you first applied them nothing happened.
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All,
The only place I have ever seen these applied were in GTS racing (Sebring)!
Your not supposed to run those on the street. I was pitting for a (962) team once and it took over two laps at Moroso to get the fiber pads up to temp. It was an exhibition weekend and the guy let his girlfriend drive. She came down the back stretch and crashed the vintage racer into the back wall.
The brakes never made temp.
The boss wasn't happy.
KingFisher
The only place I have ever seen these applied were in GTS racing (Sebring)!
Your not supposed to run those on the street. I was pitting for a (962) team once and it took over two laps at Moroso to get the fiber pads up to temp. It was an exhibition weekend and the guy let his girlfriend drive. She came down the back stretch and crashed the vintage racer into the back wall.
The brakes never made temp.
The boss wasn't happy.
KingFisher
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