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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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What causes the idle to go up or down when you depress the brakes? I have power brakes with stock drum brakes. What can I do to get rid of it? Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Your power brakes are assisted with vacuum. When that vacuum is needed by the brakes, that will change the amount of air going to the engine because it is introduced directly into the manifold rather than going through the throttle plates or idle circuit. This also changes the air fuel mixture slightly for a fraction of a second. You can reduce the idle speed change by playing with the idle mixture, but you will not get it to go away completely. This is worse in heavier trucks, as they use more vacuum.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Another thing to look for. If the idle difference is that noticeable it is a good possibility that you are getting a vacuum leak when the brakes are applied, perhaps the diaphragm in your booster is leaking. If so that would be just like an open vacuum line.

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Originally Posted by imlowr2
What causes the idle to go up or down when you depress the brakes? I have power brakes with stock drum brakes. What can I do to get rid of it? Thanks.
If you are using an engine with a high lift cam, vacuum may not be as high as it should to begin with. Sometimes a vacuum canister is used to help this. I've never considered installing a vacuum canister to offset engine idle changes, but I suppose it might help smooth it out some...

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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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On the idea of a vacuum cannister (accumulator), it will give a steady vacuum supply to the power brakes. That would eliminate the problem and (what I like) it provides a vacuum source in case the engine quits!
Finding room for the cannister promises to be the hardest part.
 
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