I have a 58 292 and I want to know if I can swap the front mounts to a 64. Are the bolt holes the same? They look alike but I think there's an extra hole in the 58. I want to put this in my 64. Does a 292 have good power, kinda fast?

 

If i;m not mistaken dusty, you can leave the brakets in the 64, but need the mounts that go for the Yblock, but i would attach the Yblock transmission and put it in all together, otherwise you are in for some grueling work, and yes a 292 has tons of power....But, i think you should put another FE engine in the car, or rebuild what is in it now, it is up to you though. The reason i say this is because the 352 has more power, and is cheaper to rebuild, and is more reliable, and suits the rear end ratio better, it will be cheaper and more practical overall the either buy a long block FE or rebuild the one that car came with, and if it came with a 289, you should definitely rebuild that beautiful reliable perfect creaton Ford made...Janet

Duh, i assume you are talking about a 64 car here and not a truck right??? I am speaking of the 64 car, but if it's a pickup i need to know what was in the 64 pickup before i can answer you, because in 64 the truck had the 292 as an option, and do you have a tranny???

 

It is a truck actually. It has a 223 6 cyl which has no power left. Since I already had the 292, I thought I would just put it in instead of getting a new engine. It has a tranny and it's actually in a 58 f100 right now(which might be a future project). I've almost decided to go with an FE anyway but I just wanted to know how easy it would be to use the 292. Might as well just get the biggest thing I can find and not have to do it later on. Good is never good enough, no matter how good there's always something better.

 

Now that i see it's a 64 pickup you are talking about, then the FE engine issue no longer apllies....The same mount (front mount) that would need to be bolted up to the front of the 292 you have and rear mounts are no problem, because your present rear bellhousing will be the new rear mounts once you bolt the 292 to it, so it is no problem at all. Are you can go the smartest route and try to rebuild the 223 inline six, reason i say that is because those are easy and cheaper to do an in frame rebuild on, plus it's already in the truck and is original, if you need something with big power and all that, why not just add another vehicle to your collection that's already that way? Janet

 

dusty64f100, I had a 223 ish 6er in my 64. I found a 63 with a 292 so I swaped out the 6 for the 292. The only thing I had to do was to remanufacture the front engine mount, it was a little too far away. Then we had to modify the clutch lever mount for the engine off of the 6 cyl. to fit the 292 but it was minor. We had the engine running in less than a day.

Mac

 

RCMC is right Dusty, but take note, you are changing engine strokes if you make this change over, and this will effect how many RPM's that other engine is going to have to turn over on the highway, and you will need to take it to a muffler shop to have pipes bent for the new exhaust, also take note, 292's already use plenty of gasoline, and the 223 you have will make you a good original truck with matching numbers and probably cruise better on the highway for the rear end you have, plus there's not that much difference in the power after 20 MPH anyway.....Janet

 

I'm not knocking the Yblock 292 at all Dusty, i have two myself, but my vehicles came with those engines original, and i had to spend good money to make them up to date and current because they were old, but if one of my Fords speaking of my 63 ford pickup or my 55 fairlane had came with a 223 6, dusty i would have kept that and rebuilt it, because it also is good. Many people want the glamour of opening the hood and seeong that V8 Yblock instead of that six they're tired of looking at, but the icing or glamour will wear off after awhile. If you was to spend a grand and rebuild that 233 the right way Dusty, think of the good original picup you would have, it would be good for a trip, or to work everyday, and that would be for years, you would not have to keep changing things and won't be spending all that money on that extra fuel and changing rear ends or gears when it isn't necessary, sure the 58 292 may be running great and the 223 is tired as you say, but Dusty i guarantee you if you put that 292 in that pickup, by the time 2 years passes you will spend 3 times as much money, as you would have if you spend a grand on the 223 that is in it. Even a man i changed a 66 mustang 200 6 to a 302, couldn't undertand my philosphy when i told him this same thing years ago, but now, based on the ratio he had with the rear end he had with the 6, plus it had a longer stroke with less power than the V8, this is true, but then he figured out how before he could whip in and around traffic and it was origianl, it's not all about power Dusty, ratio matters too.. and when Ford built your 223 pickup in 1964 they weren't stupid people. One example i can give you to chew on, that exhaust you are going to have to have built at the muffler shop is already probably nearly 30% of your money to rebuild your good 223 you have. The 292 may be good and look good under your hood, but it won't sound the way it looks once you are in the drivers seat on the highway at all..Janet

 

It's not really the power that I don't like but it wont go over 55-60. Sure, if I rebuilt it, I guess it would, but I figured if I was to rebuild one it should be bigger. I like the 6. Gets 18-20 mpg (unless I try to go the speed limit). I was going to swap the rear gears (from 3.89) but I'm not sure it has the power. Hey If I can take off and do 75-80, I'll keep it. That's what I'm mainly looking for. Guess I'll be rebuilding a six this winter if I can find a dozer to clean out the shop with. ha sure that's funny but it does need a good junk haul. not sure I can get my truck in it even.