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i tried to put it in a nice way that bazooka's sucked, but they said it was because i hadnt done a blind test or something like that
"It's an ego thing. I see it all the time. Showoff, ego types would rather buy some expensive subs just so they can say they have them, for showoff ego reasons."
last i knew, i havent heard any body at the dB drag with bazookas, and it's not just for showoff ego, the reason people buy the expesnive subs is because they like quality and performance, im not thinking you see it all the time for ego reasons, the people that go out and do that are proud of what they bought bc that stuff is expensive, but it sounds so much better
ford5.8: there's a lot of stuff to choose from, bazookas are overrated on their price and the performance they give off from that price, you would be much happier with something else.. personally i recomend, audiobahn (thats what i have and im pleased, and the neighbor's arent), kicker is really good, JL audio, and there's a few more, those brands have some pretty good stuff, i recomend a sealed box for those, and if you're wanting pretty good bass go with a 12" and if u can afford it a 15 but 12" are nice, it also depends on what kind of music u listen to, hope this helped a little
[QUOTE=RomerB2]i tried to put it in a nice way that bazooka's sucked, but they said it was because i hadnt done a blind test or something like that
Thanks at your attempt at being nice.
"It's an ego thing. I see it all the time. Showoff, ego types would rather buy some expensive subs just so they can say they have them, for showoff ego reasons."
This is absolutely true. But I never said it happens in every case. But those types do exist. Don't tell me you haven't met a guy just like that. They usually are irresponsible jerks who are trying to show off and impress someone and who have some unhappy neighbors, like you.
last i knew, i havent heard any body at the dB drag with bazookas, and it's not just for showoff ego, the reason people buy the expesnive subs is because they like quality and performance, im not thinking you see it all the time for ego reasons, the people that go out and do that are proud of what they bought bc that stuff is expensive, but it sounds so much better
Of course no one at the dB drags would have Bazookas. You are comparing apples with oranges. Bazookas are made with system use in mind, which would mean being balanced with the rest of the system. Creating a sub system for the drags that burps out a huge dB level at a certain frequency is some form of competition, but not necessarily musical, or even quality sound. And if that is what someone wants to do, that's fine. I have no problem with that. But that doesn't mean these monster subs "sound so much better" as you say. Just because an amplified 10" Bazooka won't cave in your face with 18hz at 170dB doesn't mean they "suck".
ford5.8: there's a lot of stuff to choose from, bazookas are overrated on their price and the performance they give off from that price,
Is this comment based totally on your opinion, or does it have some basis in fact?
you would be much happier with something else.. personally i recomend, audiobahn (thats what i have and im pleased, and the neighbor's arent),
This is a quality recommendation. I'll be shocked if audiobahn doesn't sell out of every sub in their line.
sorry if my post seemed to attack i didnt intend for it to, but what i am saying is the more expensive subs are very nice and hit hard, if i turn down the gain it dosnt hit hard and it sounds good with rock and other things, personally i just dont like bazooka's, and the forum was about feedback on them
i know what ure talking about the irresponsible jerks, who go out buy the "best" thing which means most expensive to them, and say they have a kickass system, those guys are all over the place, mostly kids that can get what they want when they want bc their parents are loaded or whatever, they're cocky jerks that like to brag about the money they have, i dont have any use of those type of people
also i gave more brands than one, maybe they will sell out of every sub, what does it matter if they do.. most of the people i know have either kicker or audiobahn subs in their rides, because it sounds good, he did ask what else is out there, so i gave him some, and if you want to put my subs against some bazookas ill blow them away with both quality and performance, im not saying if you're starting out to not get some bazooka's, im saying shop around, and check ratings
Thanks for your opinions,thats what I wanted to hear..Only reason I like the bazooka is because of the size,but maybe I will just break down and get some 10" audiobahns in boxs.. Does this look like a good deal?
hey man it looks like a good deal, ure getting 2 subs that are 300 watts RMS each with 600 watt peak, with a 91 dB sensitivity, i think that's pretty good with a bandpass, but the bandpass looks kind of cheap, but should do ya pretty good, and the subs have distortion-free guarantee bass bc of the rubber surround which is a major plus, and they can be played at 2-ohm, and they have 5 star durability ratings, i think you're getting a sweet deal there, the amp's not too bad, and for the whole package it seems pretty good.. i almost got something like that, but the one i was going to get came with 12's and it didnt have an amp, but i went for different 12's that were a little more expensive, but lots louder, now im still needing a good amp, i got one for $100 at walmart, some cheap little thing, but till i get about $400 it will do me, but i think you're getting a pretty good deal
A few more points. No you wont see bazooka's in the DB drag lanes but more importantly you will NEVER see them in a SQ comp either. DB drags as we all know is mostly one note wonders but SQ comps judge the entire audio spectrum. Bazooka's just dont get it done thru the whole sub base frequency spectrum.
Bazooka's have very poor SQ. If you just mearly look at their tuning frequency you will realize that their frequency response curve is not linear. Bazooka's are designed to over emphasize the upper end of low frequency (40-100hz) and to the casual listener this "sounds good". A proper SQ sub will be pretty linear thru the whole spectrum of 20-80hz.
I am going to put on my flame retardent suit and say that Audiobahn, while much better than Bazooka, is still pretty sorry stuff. Too much emphasis on tricked out looks and not enough on driver performance. Just like Bazookas, you will not see any Audiobahn's winning any legitamate SQ comps. Its just a fact and one that is supported by most of the serious car audio community. Check the forums I listed above for more info.
For serious SQ subs check out JL, Image Dynamics, Resonant Enginerring, Arc Audio, Elemental Designs, Focal, Adire Audio.....among many others.
Thanks for your opinions,thats what I wanted to hear..Only reason I like the bazooka is because of the size,but maybe I will just break down and get some 10" audiobahns in boxs.. Does this look like a good deal?
This is a terrible setup. One, its Audiobahn (see above post). Two, its a band pass box that looks like a generic prefab box that most likely is not designed with the subs exact specs in mind which will make it sound like dog crap. Third, Sound Storm is a pathetic company that is a knock off of Soundstream, a top notch audio company. I bet that amp will not even come close to its listed power and its reliability will be poor.
You can do much better than this. Let me know what your budget is, what car you have and we'll see if we can steer you in the right direction.
for the price it seems like a good deal, i dont care too much for bandpass's do to the tuning that you have to do on them, but it depends on what kind of music you listen to, if u like rap and solid note stuff a bandpass is great for that, but if you want to listen to rock or different things go with sealed, audiobahns arent that bad, i know my system with 2 12 inch audiobahns and infinity front and rear's is a lot better than a lot of people's out there, im looking at upgrading my system some more, maybe going with phoenix gold's, have u guys heard anything good about them? this system i have in now, im thinking about selling and spending a little more, but till then it's great
Yes, it seems William PC is in the know and he offers some good advice. One thing I want to point out is that judging from the original post, it sounds as though ford5.8 is something of a beginner, so I was trying to give advice accordingly. Of course someone with experience at SQ events, etc., will not be so crazy about how any Bazooka sub performs when compared with other set-ups that are available. It's all relative to what a person has experienced. There are people who think a stock sound system of this day and age sounds wonderful. It's in the perspective. And while there is certainly nothing wrong with recommending some high end gear to a beginner, I say let the user get some experience of his own and grow to appreciate high end gear and upgrade at a reasonable rate. There is also not a thing wrong with a beginner having an amplified 10" Bazooka. Like I said before, there are better, but there are worse. And they can be easily integrated into an average system, and reproduce their part of recorded music to a reasonable degree. But they are what they are. I never intended to imply that they were something above ordinary. But I still believe that ford5.8 would be surprised at how they can perform, especially after this discussion. Unless he just came from the Iasca finals or some such thing.
I do not need a high end system by any means,just something that will sound decent and is reliable..I have a alpine 50x4 deck right now with stock speakers. It sounds like JL is a good brand also..? Something like this looks like it would fit behind my seat. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...717478053&rd=1
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