Ruger MKII
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Originally Posted by Mattsbox99
Ya know, I picked up one of them model 710s, and went to work the action, but the bolt fell out before I could get a hold of it.
That pretty much turned me off to anything Remington has to offer.
I asked the kid at the counter iof he had sold many of these, he said they were flying off the shelves.
That pretty much turned me off to anything Remington has to offer.
I asked the kid at the counter iof he had sold many of these, he said they were flying off the shelves.
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As to the black scope on a stainless rifle, gloss black looks stupid. Matte black on a s.s. rifle with a mat black stock looks very nice. Many of the custom rifles are outfitted matte black scope on stainless rifle. Remember, for the expert hunter, the less that shines the better. Brushed stainless shines. Its that simple. As to the quality and accuracy of the Ruger rifle, they, like any other production rifle are hit or miss. I have a Ruger that will shoot 1/2" grops at 200 yards. I have traded several of them that wouldn't shoot 1" at 100. All the major manufacturers are pretty much the same in this area. When I buy a rifle, I shoot it a couple hundred times working on loads, doing accuracy work etc. If I do not get acceptable accuracy by then, I trade it or have it rebarreled with Mcgowen or Hart barrel.
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From: Conway Arkansas
Hey matt... I could have thought of something that may have caused that.
On that model gun... theres a release on the left of the barrel, across from the bolt
You flip it up, and the bolt slides out very easily
On that model gun... theres a release on the left of the barrel, across from the bolt
You flip it up, and the bolt slides out very easily
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From: Montana Territory
Yes Andy, I know all about that. I figured out what was wrong, and to me, that is a major design flaw.
You won't see any other rifle that has stamped steel parts in it, especially ones so critical to safety.
I've always got plenty of things to complain about, I don't need to spend more time doing it.
You won't see any other rifle that has stamped steel parts in it, especially ones so critical to safety.
I've always got plenty of things to complain about, I don't need to spend more time doing it.
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From: Conway Arkansas
Originally Posted by Mattsbox99
Yes Andy, I know all about that. I figured out what was wrong, and to me, that is a major design flaw.
You won't see any other rifle that has stamped steel parts in it, especially ones so critical to safety.
I've always got plenty of things to complain about, I don't need to spend more time doing it.
You won't see any other rifle that has stamped steel parts in it, especially ones so critical to safety.
I've always got plenty of things to complain about, I don't need to spend more time doing it.
I kinda of like that idea... It also comes w/ a key so you can lock the bolt closed/open etc.
I like the little flip up arm however, as I can take the bolt out and store it seperate from the gun so that nobody can accidentally load it or anything
To each his own however
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From: KCMO
Originally Posted by ga302p
...Brushed stainless shines. Its that simple...
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From: Conway Arkansas
Originally Posted by pchristman
That's what most of the Nimrods I hunt with tell me whenever they see my stainless Ruger. That's their opinion, and probably what their Daddy told them, but it falls into the old-wifes-tales category. Blued barrels also shine. Tests conducted in the field have prooved that stainless barrels are no more noticeable (and in some cases, even less noticeable) that blued barrels. I no longer have the report, but I believe it was in American Rifleman about 1990. That was when I bought my Ruger, and I had concerns about that "shiny stainless."
I agree with that to an extent....
If your in brush, etc you may not notice it
but if its up in a tree w/ no limbs, id see it before i seen a black barrel
Atleast... i think I would.
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From: KCMO
Originally Posted by Andysutt
I agree with that to an extent....
If your in brush, etc you may not notice it
but if its up in a tree w/ no limbs, id see it before i seen a black barrel
Atleast... i think I would.
If your in brush, etc you may not notice it
but if its up in a tree w/ no limbs, id see it before i seen a black barrel
Atleast... i think I would.
Something I learned from jug-fishers at the Lake of the Ozarks is that black is a very conspicuous color. They paint their jugs black to make them easier to find, and it works under all light conditions. I didn't believe it until I saw side-by-side comparisons with reds, yellows, and even neon colors.
However, the hardest color for a whitetail to see is hot pink. (I don't think that's a trend that will catch on.)
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From: Conway Arkansas
Originally Posted by pchristman
Don't think so. If neither one has any glare, the stainless will appear more of a neutral gray, and be less noticeable. And, a brushed finish is less susceptible to glare than a smooth blue finish.
Something I learned from jug-fishers at the Lake of the Ozarks is that black is a very conspicuous color. They paint their jugs black to make them easier to find, and it works under all light conditions. I didn't believe it until I saw side-by-side comparisons with reds, yellows, and even neon colors.
However, the hardest color for a whitetail to see is hot pink. (I don't think that's a trend that will catch on.)
Something I learned from jug-fishers at the Lake of the Ozarks is that black is a very conspicuous color. They paint their jugs black to make them easier to find, and it works under all light conditions. I didn't believe it until I saw side-by-side comparisons with reds, yellows, and even neon colors.
However, the hardest color for a whitetail to see is hot pink. (I don't think that's a trend that will catch on.)
I was comparing a shiny stainless to a black however.
I understand what your saying.
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I have to disagree on the value gun. Savage rifles are the best value IMO. Seen stainless/synthetic .300WSM with a 3-9X40 mounted and boresighted from Savage go for under 500 OTD. It's not a tube chassis like the 710 either, and you can easily replace or rechamber with their barrel setup. 710 is a press fit barrel, not easy to rebarrel if you want to shoot a lot and wear out the rifling. 710s are very good value for starting out, or trying to keep the cash outlay down.
Don't get me wrong, Rugers are every bit as nice as the Rem700 and Win70, for less money. Savage is just as nice, and less money. Also, most of the gun rags agree that the AccuTrigger from Savage is the BEST OEM trigger going right now.
brent
Don't get me wrong, Rugers are every bit as nice as the Rem700 and Win70, for less money. Savage is just as nice, and less money. Also, most of the gun rags agree that the AccuTrigger from Savage is the BEST OEM trigger going right now.
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Yea, the 710 is a pressed barrel. I've shot around 500 shots thru this gun and it isnt wore out and still shoots just as good
I personally dont like 700 as much.
Savage however, does make a good gun also.
The 710 comes boresited from the factory also
I have a Savage Mark II 22 Bolt Action. I like the gun
But I stick w/ my 10.22 for my 22 shooting these days.
I personally dont like 700 as much.
Savage however, does make a good gun also.
The 710 comes boresited from the factory also
I have a Savage Mark II 22 Bolt Action. I like the gun
But I stick w/ my 10.22 for my 22 shooting these days.
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