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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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Hi ya doing, i have a 1993 ford f-150. I used to be able to smoke the tires with no problem by just putting the brakes down a little bit, but just recently it seems that i cant even spin them.. What would be causing this, i heard of the term transmission stall, could that have any effect on what is going on.. I kno it sounds stupid but i really wish i could smoke those tires again, so if anyone can help me out here that would be much appreciated!
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Hmm? Maybe the problem is that you are pushing down on the brakes why you try to give it gas! That is so hard on a vehicle. Don't feel bad, I used to do it all the time in my f-100. When I first started doing it it would burn fine but then after a while it would not burn out anymore. Why you might ask? Because the torque converter was going out. When you keep doing that it is putting all of the strain on your converter. I really learned the hard way because my converter went out and sent metal chips through the whole tranny and killed it. $1000 dollars later I learned to not do that anymore!
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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Guess I won't be doing that anymore. Better to learn from someone elses mistake than your own ........Knowing me tho im going to have to learn the hard way before I really get it in my head :\
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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Especially on the modern lockup convertors, they can't take the abuse like the older trannies can...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:36 AM
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Do you like have an unlimited supply of tires
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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screw a supply of tires....judging by the fact that you drive a 93' f-150 tells me that you arent a millionare who has more money than sense so i would have to advise you that doing that ruins the converter and the bands in the tranny its not good for it at all...the tranny will fail from it and you may also be replacing the engine from the stress or seals on that I-6 .....if you want a burnout car go buy a POS car thats light in the rear end and buy stock in a used tire company.... thats my advice to you my friend trust me tranny woes arent what you want for dinner
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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I agree, but how do manuals hold up to burnouts? LOL, I've done my share of burnouts and it really chews up the tires. Yeah, it's cool and all but it gets old. Man, what am I saying???????? Burnouts are awesome, you just don't do them in your vehicle or you watch other people waste away their tires.

Plus, trucks are for work and weren't made to be burnout kings. Well, unless you have something like a SVT F150. Go get a cheap hot rod.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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If you simply MUST do burnouts, look into the "Line Lock" or similar device that holds front brake pressure but not the rear.

In addition, you can shop for tires where the treadwear indicator is over 500, and the traction is "c".

As a last resort, you can hook up a windshield pump and reservoir and spray soapy water on the rear tires for an easy start.

Lots of ways to apply technology to this, so that the destruction of your tranny and waste of the tires will be more gradual.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Good ideas!!! I've seen the guys on American Hotrod using bleach on the pavement before doing a burnout. That'll probably make it more slippery, but will they smoke better?

P.S. This loving burnouts has to be a guy thing because my wife doesn't know how to appreciate a good smokey tire fire. Are there any females out there that love burnouts?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Bleach works but don't forget the fumes are worse than just burnt rubber. And the smell of burnt rubber in the morning is better than coffee.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Bleach is to soften the tires for traction. Good if you're racing, not so good if you want the tires to last through next week. If the goal is just smokey burnouts, the soapy water will help break traction and provide some steam along with smoke for effect.

Also, do you want bleach all over the side and undercarriage?

Write us about your "Exhibition of Speed" tickets.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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or "faulty start" and "careless driving" and the funniest thing is watching the moron in front of you rockin the "one wheel wonder" thinkin he's in the staging lanes at the Gator Nationals...lol i dont do it anymore after i blew out the tranny in the g/f's old explorer...the mustang at the staging line at the dragstrip is difrent because im runnin slicks and i have to heat them....but as ive said before to each their own brother
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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How you do a burnout in a manual? You're sitting there with your foot engaged on the clutch, the other on the gas. You dump the clutch between 2500 and 5000 rpms (Depending on engine), and immediately throw your foot down on the brakes. If you've got enough juice in the driveline, then that second your foot is off the clutch and you're putting it on the brake your tires should light up and you shouldn't go anywhere anyways. Then just hold the breaks as needed and watch the smoke. LS you'll have clouds on both sides, Open and you'll be a one wheel wonder. I've only done a burnout once, and that was on July 4th for my cousin. Then...I somehow caused the ABS sensor cord to rip apart, so I won't do that again. I have had the truck for a while now...so just having done one is pretty good. My cousin Matt just really wanted to see what it was like.

If anybody knows a different way, lemme know. That's the onlyw ay I could think of it. I'm a one-wheel-wonder btw...he didnt' mind though. Dropped the old 300 at 3500 and she just roared away. =)Now I get to watch that ABS light stare at me all the time, but who cares? It was in the name of youth.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Nice
But a little high for the 300 don't ya think?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Nope. Well...yes and no. Peak horsepower (All 145-150 of em) comes at 3400. Anything past 3500 is useless, your horsepower is dropping back down fast, and torque has already fallen off by quite a bit. However, I did a drop at 2500 and it didn't do much. So I decided to drop it at HP peak and that worked nicely. I generally only run her up around 3000-3200 maximum, and that's only when I get frisky. I've hit 5000 when I clutched down a hill with the cruise control on still before the cruise turned off, which scared the crap out of me, and a couple of guys on here said they've maxed their tach gauge (6000 rpm's) and the 300 just roared on through, which is quite reassuring. 220+ thousand miles, whatever it is (Odometer says 220, grandpa says 240). I was more worried about the transmission then anything. M5OD, ya know. That and its original clutch. Doesn't give me a lick of trouble though, so its no worry.

Over 3500 rpms you're just causing wear and not doing much for yourself. The only reason to bring it all the way up to 3000 or even more hten that is just so that when you shift you've still got rpm's and power behind it...whereas if you shift at 2200-2300 you're in a hole again making it back up to 2000 where the torque is almost plateauing.

For the record...if I had an Automatic I wouldn't do anything like burning out, simply because I'm scared of automatics. A Taurus will do that to you.
 
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