fordlover1951 i for the longest time said i would never have kids. my wife had one when i met her, he was only five months old and took to me like wild fire. well since then we have had two more and i love them all. am i saying this is right for you, no, what is right for you is what you decide. please understand i am in no way attacking you. i actually agree with you and don't under stand some of the earlier posts. you ask a question about the people who have a dozen kids and get attacked by people with low numbers according to their posts. i don't know. what i do know is don't soggie that foot to long or you'll end up at the doctors office with a good case of athleats tounge. oh yea 8996ebbroncos that's funny that is my birth day to just not 2004. good luck to you.

 

There is no rule saying we all have to have kids (been married 10 years and neither of us has the itch to have them), but it would be financially tough for us due to the fact that so much of our income is taken by the govt. to support welfare programs. That sounds bad but its the truth.

 

AMEN to that mikemc

 

Well, I think that the world is deteriorating so quickly, in many ways, that it would be a difficult choice to have a child today. I can't imagine anyone who leans in the slightest way toward environmentalism would even have one child. Overpopulation, pollution, lack of resources, war, terrorism, etc. Granted, there are things in life that are so good, some days I feel as if I may burst. On the other hand, some of humankind's doings are so bad.... Single parent 'families', abandon children, abused, abducted, murdered. Life can also be a hell. I admire those who can persevere and raise a decent child, but there are too many, as evidenced by other threads here, that take not a minute to teach their own children the basics of decency. Personally, I have none, by choice.

 

Fact- the world has always been going downhill- If your grandparents decided life was too ugly when Hitler was running around, many of us would not be here.

Plague, War, Indians, Gangsters, Kings- only the names change.

Fact II- You can never afford kids if you think about it logically.

Fact III- Everybody on Earth can fit in Texas.

 

Oh man what a thread. I am the proud mother of eight. girl 8 boy 9 boy 12 boy 12 girl 15 girl 15 girl 19 girl 20 and I have never recieved welfare, my kids have clean decent clothes, are productive members of society, active in church, love the Lord, we have never had to eat ramen for a week or go without. We have a modest home we pay our taxes, we volunteer in our community as well as others. We drive an Excursion which we get B*&^%$d out about because they in their infinite wisdom believe I am depleting the worlds oil supply. We pump money into our economy and we do all we can to make the world a better place.
When I grocery shop and buy 5 heads of lettuce for our dinner salad i am not taking food from a mother of 1, when i purchase 15 packages of sport socks at Wal mart i am not dperiving a single man, childless couple, or smaller family of having socks to wear. When we go to the theater and I spend my 50.00 on tickets I am not keeping anyone else from seeing the movie.
I may have eight children which to some may be in excess but i will tell you what my eight are better than many parents 1. I have had all my children at once in a department store where people looked at me strange and the clerks watched to see what was going to happen when we all went into the china department to buy a wedding gift. the clerk actually said "maam will you please watch your children there are very valuable items in here" i said yes there are and I mothered the 8 most valuable. While we were picking what we would get our family friend when a mother with a boy about 7 entered the department and within two minutes he picked up a plate and when he set it down it knocked other plates off and many service pieces were ruined. I just smiled at the clerk and said my 8 were taught from early on if you can breathe on it dont touch it. I placed my purchase on the counter paid and walked out with all my ducklings in a line.
Just because we are a family of 10 (8 + 2 parents) does not mean we are dumb, stupid, ignorant or dont know birth control. There are some people in this world who dont want children, some want two, others like myself wanted a big family.
if i could have more I would. Each of my kids has oodles of friends who come to our home to fellowship, swim, ride the horses, play horseshoes, bible studies etc. We sometimes will have twenty kids or more in the house.
I am sorry for those of you who think big families are sucking up the worlds resources. We may use alot the worlds resources but we replenish it with Gods word and his love.
I also would bet we are less wasteful than a single couple with no kids to support.
I firmly stand on the ground that children are Gods way of saying the world must go on. I also stand firmly on the principle that if you are going to give birth to them by God you better raise them without government help or give them to someone who can. (unless it is an emergency and you only need temporary help)
Thats my story and Im stickin to it!

 

Survival of the species were genetically programmed to pro create -- or blessed by the almighty depending which side of the fence ones beliefs fall.

Passing on having children is a responsible choice -- passing judgement on others rings of remorse.

 

Well,I have four children and would not trade one of them for all the money in the world.I was going to stop at two.Tried birth control,but found out that I am allergic to the sound of screaming women and the smell of burning rubber!

 

Hey 51.....Now that we have both had our say, and pulled our feet out of our mouths (only after getting our heads out of someplace else).

I do understand where you are coming from, I don't believe you should have children just for the sake of having children. I don't believe if you do have children you should look to someone else to pay for them. I wouldn't expect you to put gas in my car, so why should you help support my family?

We are a Brady Bunch family, yours, mine and ours. However, the other side of the equation has never been there. My wife and I have fully supported each child, with no help from the state or anyone else.

I will have to agree there are many deadbeat males and females out there who have children (can't seem be bring myself to call them dad's and mom's here). That is an whole entire new issue, which I am sure we would see more eye-to-eye on!

I don't have a problem if you or anyone else decides that they don't want to have children, that is your choice. Just as much as it is my choice to have children. I won't tell anyone that they only need to have two cars, since they can only drive one at a time. In return, they shouldn't tell anyone that two children are their limit, or call them vain because they have more.

I appauld you for you dedication to your profession and helping those less fortunate or physically/mentally challenged. I am sure you have experienced many moments of joy through this and hope you continue to receive a life time of happiness.

So this is my apology to you and all those I may have offended. Now I will also remove my foot/feet and knees.

I can only hope and pray that the children of today will be able to develope answers to the problems of the world tomorrow.

 

You sure it wasn't you screaming Triton ...

On the subject, My wife and I have been together for over 6 years, and still no kids. We decided not to pursue parenthood at this point in our lives. I don't think I would want children. I have several beautiful nieces, and nephews. They are truly a blessing, but children are not for me.

It's unfair to judge others for the choices they make. Parenthood isn't for everyone. To those of you who are parents ... my hats off to you, better you than me. But don't judge me for not wanting kids, I'm doing whats best for me, and you go on doing whats best for you.

 

I'll add my apology to those I've offended. Opinions are like hind ends...we all have one...some are just better looking than others. (?) That didn't sound quite right, but I think y'all get the drift.

No offense to anyone, but I still find it hard to rationalize having a large family. My dad came from a pack of 13, so at a young age I knew what my grandfather liked to do in his spare time. Poor grandma. She died at a young age...don't know what it was, I was still pretty young...but I got the drift that grandad "Childed" her into the ground. Personally, I think she died to escape! LOL.. just kidding.

Anyway... it doesn't matter what my opinion is... thats all it is and ever will be...opinion. My apologies to all I have offended by this "insensitive" thread.

 

No offence here, I agree with many of your points. I too am childless, for that matter I am single and likely to stay that way. My sister has five kids, four of her own, and one of her husband's from a previous marriage. I figure I don't need to have any, she had my share! I have some wonderful nieces and nephews, and that's fine with me. My sister and her husband are good parents, and they are raising good kids. I see people all the time who should NEVER have had kids, and don't really seem to want them but feel stuck with them. What kind of adults will these kids grow up to be? The cycle continues... -TD

 

I understand to an extent. Just like everyone should not be parents, some should not own animals, drive cars etc.
I have my 8 kids and will stand anyone down and kick some butt if they try to hurt any one of them. I said in the thread about kids that my kids have never had to be supported by welfare, medicaid, food stamps or any other kind of government aid. We paid for all of them to be born. We have done it on our own.
I do respect your opinion however I resent your ******* of families who choose to have lots of children. Or at least the fact you lump us all together. I am sure if I were to check your life out i would find things that would bug me to no end. I am sure you have quirks about you that are not all positive but it is your life and unless you are hurting someone or an animal the choice is yours.
When people make snide comments about me having 8 children I just look at them and say "Be careful what you say, it may be one of my eight that save the life of you, your spouse or your one child. they may be the one that discoveres the cure for AIDS, one of my children may become a great peacemaker in the world" Many people say they had never thought of it that way. If you were to research how many great things have happened in this world because of a child from a "pack of 6 or 8 or even 13 children" perhaps you would see things different. I think about that and wonder what if that childs parents had stopped at 1,or 2 or 3 or chose to never have children at all.
We are all entitled to our opinion and I have mine as you have yours. I however can show the positive for having a large family.

 

Please be aware of the use of the words *You* & *Your*.
Comments with their use are considered *personal comments* directed at another user.

An apology was extended earlier in this thread.

 

I believe this could go on for years. However, I think we all agree on a couple of things here. It isn't if you have children or not, but that those who choose to have children are responsible for those children.
If you don't want children, don't have them.
If you want children, have them and raise them yourself.
If you didn't want children, but had them anyhow, be responsible enough to take care of them.

The second point is: It is a scary place to raise children. Lets all hope these children are able to do better!!