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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Question towing versus pushing a load

I was out driving the other day and I saw a fairly common thing: A vehicle towing another and it made me think about something. For you towing gurus out there, does a vehicle work harder towing a load versus pushing it? Same weight, just different application of force. I'm very curious.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Are you talking about pushing a load that would be hitched to the truck in the front or simply pushing dead weight?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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As far as energy involved, it's the same--basic physics. Either way, the same weight is moving the same direction, and requires the same amount of force.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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One thing to think about..I dont know if it's true, or not, but I heard it in one of the many lift truck classes I took. They had mentioned that if one got stuck (you may laugh at that thought, but I saw it happen in a vineyard..Dont try to transport one by driving through the vineyard, drive around on the road) do not try to push it with a vehicle, as you could bend your frame, depending on how stuck the lift is.

I took this class, of course, AFTER trying to push that lift out with my '66 F-100. Didnt bend a frame, though. Worst I did was ruin a tire by spinning it on a sharp rock.

Anyhow. I know whatever youre having to push would have to be heavy to bend a frame, but maybe keep it in mind.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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You'd be surprised how much those forklifts weigh. Our small stand-up electric one at work weighs 7000 lbs. The battery alone weighs 2000 lbs! These things have to be HEAVY to hold up a load out on the forks.

As for the pushing or pulling, the main difference would be the tongue weight on the rear axle when hooked up to a trailer, versus just pushing on something from behind it. The extra weight makes more traction for the drive tires. Steering when pushing a car, for example, involves alot of sliding around on eachother's bumpers and is much harder than pulling the same car on a chain. Thinking strictly physics, it's just like Mikebon said. Add in the real-world effect and everything changes...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Very interesting. I was just wondering if a vehicle would accelerate the same towing or pushing, say, 5000 pounds.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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you would be all over the road trying ot keep the load in front of you.
i would think pushing the load would creat more traction your truck, you are pushing against the load and it in turn is pushing down.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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what about airbags going off. any chance of this happening?
 
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I don't think the airbags would go off pushing one. If you hit one that hard, you were going to do some serious damage, not just push it.
 
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