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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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I have a 2002 f250 S.D. 7.3 Powerstroke with about 40k..miles on it. Yesterday. it was running fine and a friend and I just returned from a day of fishing. We stopped at his house and I went in for about 45 minutes and let the truck run. I came out and as I pulled out of his driveway, the truck stalled. I live about 1/2 mile form his res nd the truck stalled 8 times before I got home. IT seems like it wasn't getting fuel, each time it stalled, it took several cranks to get it going. It would then start and I would put it in gear and just as it started to pick up speed, it would die out again. I kept it going at one point by pumping on the pedal, but it would eventually die out.
This morning, I went out and hooked up my Micro Tuner and returned it to stock. I read the DTC's, got an error code of P0603-Internal Ctrl Mod Kam Error, the other code I got was P1247- Turbo Boost Pressure Lows, there was a 3rd code but I erased it before writing it down. I then popped the hood and noticed *oil* on the driver side of the engine, some had sprayed onto the turbo and most of the left side.I checked the oil and it is full, just changed a couple k's ago and it is clean. The oil on the engine is also clean, etc..

Anyone with similair problems?? or know what the codes mean and problem I have, etc...
Thanks,

Ken
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Also... I spoke to a friend of mine who said I should try the fuel filter first, since it I had to pump it to get it going and it would die out, etc.. Second., he told me that the oil may be from the Turbo, says that there are seals in the turbo and they may be leaking and need to be replaced ??? or it may be a sensor gone ??
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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did your check engine light come on. If so chances are it is not the fuel filter, I would definately open the water dump valve on the filter housing, and check for water first, but the filter will not make it die suddenly, unless you just filled up with a tank of rally bad diesel. Ok back to the service light, a bad cam position sensor would cause that problem, I replaced one yesterday in a 1999 F350, it is on its 3rd with 340k. I have replaced about 6 of them on powerstrokes, common sympton is staling, surging, shutting off. The good news is one small bolt hold it in just above the Harmonic balancer offset to the left a little, It uses a 10mm socket to remove the bolt takes 2 minutes to change, remove wiring connector, remove bolt, pullstraight out, put new one in.. The bad news is the sensor is about $180 at parts store, but the dealer wants $430 for one installed.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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Get a cam sensor from international, they are 102 bucks with tax.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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i will start saving for this then, cuz i know my number will be up. great info guys
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Get a cam sensor from international, they are 102 bucks with tax.
does International have a website to order one from or a telephone number? Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Any chance this could be a leaking HPOP? Would that cause a no-idle condition?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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I paid ~$88 for mine from these guys, just before going on vacation last month:
Husky International Truck Service
13123 48th Avenue South
Tukwila, WA 98168-3305
Phone: (206) 433-3461
Nice group of guys down there. There's also an office in Spokane (just google it).
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I paid like $92 for my new CMP from international....and so far no probs *thumbs up*
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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Good deals on the part. I need to keep a stock of them, usually I need one now and don't have time for shipping or looking around normally make a phone call and have one to me within an hour. These are definately a problem the diesels have, I have not checked if there is a TSB on them, but there should be.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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I agree, sounds like the CMP Sensor. Here's some information for you:

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Found out the problem to the stalling, etc.. Oil pump was leaking and throwing oil out from the connecters on the pump. Once I topped up the the oil, it started and ran fine. I guess once it got down on oil, it wouldn't start, or at least start and thwn stall right away. The error codes, I am told, are the result of the oil leaking and throwing everything out of whack, turbo pressure low, KAM cntrl error, etc.. I only have 40 K on the motor, is this common, for the pump to go... or could there be other problems that caused it to go.. Thanks for all the info guys, I think I will invest in a Cam sensor since it will likely go on me somewhere down the road.
Ken
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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I had my high pressure oil pump replaced at about 145K miles, but maybe I was lucky.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Further to the oil leaks, was told today that the problem was with the connectors to the oil pump. The "O" rings apparently were starting to wear and one was ready to fall off the connector. The mechanic at the dealer told me that there have been several trucks with the same problem and Ford has come with a new type connector/adaptor that will fix this problem. So, I guess it was minor in nature, could have been worse.

Ken
 
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