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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Why the Mods????

Being new to the diesel game, as I just got my first diesel 2002 PSD F250 CC, I got the vehicle to pull a 10,000# travel Trailer. Gas mileage is great compared to my V-10 I traded in. I think a 2002 has either 250 or 275 hp and 505 lbs ft to torque. What would the the mod's accomplish for me as I would want reliablity and long lasting service. 60 to 65 mph is plenty to pull a 10,000# trailer and the 7.3L does this very well.
I couldn't compete with gas engines on 0 to 60mph, but they can't compete with a 10,000# load attached.
If I wanted real performance then a mustang, corvette, or a viper would do real well.
If these mods better gas mileage than what is the benefit vs the cost.

Just puzzled in Kansas.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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If you want to do some mods to extend the life of the engine here are a few for you:

1. Oil bypass filter-this is a secondary filter that will get the majority of the small contaminants that the regular filter doesn't catch.

2. Coolant filter-filters out all the crud from the coolant system.

3. 4" exhaust-will help keep exhaust temps down when towing.

4. Ford AIS air intake-will allow you to maintain the warranty and it will filter better and flow more air keeping the engine cleaner and the exhaust temps lower.

5. Pyro, boost, and trans temp gauges-will help you monitor additional information above and beyond what the stock gauges do.

6. Run a fuel additive like Stanadyne Performance Formula in every tank. It will improve the cetane rating of the fuel and keep the engine cleaner. The improved fuel mileage usually offsets the cost of the additive. You can buy it HERE.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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dont' underestimate a diesel. I have a friend who specializes in modifyinfgthese things, and he has been doing it for years. He competes in everything from tractor pulls to drag racing, and he has quite a few wins. I have a 95 psd W/ an automatic transmission, and only 55,000 miles. Once the trans starts to go (I am expecting this to happen between 80k and 100k, I am going to take my truck to him for intake, exhaust, chip, and a special HD rebuilt tranny that has a 300k warranty on it. He uses this transmission in his truck that pulls 40,000 at the tractor pulls,and he has never burned one up. Oh yeah, once he gets done, and he does put every truck on the dyno before it leaves, he says I can expect to run a 13.2-13-6 1/4 mile. Won't all the rice burners love that one! These mods won't affect the longevity of the motor, as long as you don't drive the dog out of it everyday. He has tried about every combo out there, and they do thier own R&D, they don't take the manufacturer's claims as to how much power a part produces, they make sure it is really there. Only place I know to get the stainless exhaust for my 95, he buys the newer kits and modifies them to work on the older trucks, plus a modified down pipe. Can't wait to save up the money!!! The torque converter alone is $1700, plus $400 for the module to control it, plus about $3000 for the trans, plus another $2000 for the chip, intake and exhaust. This truck is a keeper, so I don't mind spending the money. these basic mods let the engine breathe easier, and most of the time give better fuel economy, so the engine should last longer (if it isn't abused)
 
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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These trucks are FINE towing vehicles just the way Ford makes them. Modifications are an individual's choice to make them better. There are plenty of mods for engine longevity, as well as plenty more for performance enhancement. If you got plenty of money just lying around, you can do all of them.... or you can pick and choose some of them which appeal to you.... or you can choose to leave the truck the way it is. I think the main reason a lot of people mod up their truck is just because they can. I only have a few minor mods on my truck, but it is a lot of fun to see the improvement the mod brings about. For a lot of folks, the biggest improvement a mod accomplishes is making the driver's grin get bigger and bigger.........
 
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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These trucks are FINE towing vehicles just the way Ford makes them. Modifications are an individual's choice to make them better. There are plenty of mods for engine longevity, as well as plenty more for performance enhancement. If you got plenty of money just lying around, you can do all of them.... or you can pick and choose some of them which appeal to you.... or you can choose to leave the truck the way it is. I think the main reason a lot of people mod up their truck is just because they can. I only have a few minor mods on my truck, but it is a lot of fun to see the improvement the mod brings about. For a lot of folks, the biggest improvement a mod accomplishes is making the driver's grin get bigger and bigger.........
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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RedTaurus94 is correct, these trucks are perfectly capable of performing to capacity from the factory. The intention of my previous post was to give you an idea of what mods would help the longevity of the engine. By all means, do none/any/all of them and enjoy the truck.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by melisa
he says I can expect to run a 13.2-13-6 1/4 mile.
Extremely unlikely without adding $2500-$3500 for 250cc injectors and $2000-$2500 for a big turbo. To get a PSD into the low 13's takes right around 450-500 horsepower to the rear wheels, that simply isn't possible with stock injectors.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by melisa
he says I can expect to run a 13.2-13-6 1/4 mile.
Yea I gotta call that one too - ain't gonna happen with that list of mods. You could/should be in the 15 - 16 second range - especially with an aftermarket TC and tranny. I have the stock tranny still - but other than that I've got a pretty close list of mods to what you want to do and I ran a 16.0 and a 15.89 a couple of weeks ago.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
If you want to do some mods to extend the life of the engine here are a few for you:

1. Oil bypass filter-this is a secondary filter that will get the majority of the small contaminants that the regular filter doesn't catch.

2. Coolant filter-filters out all the crud from the coolant system.

3. 4" exhaust-will help keep exhaust temps down when towing.

4. Ford AIS air intake-will allow you to maintain the warranty and it will filter better and flow more air keeping the engine cleaner and the exhaust temps lower.

5. Pyro, boost, and trans temp gauges-will help you monitor additional information above and beyond what the stock gauges do.

6. Run a fuel additive like Stanadyne Performance Formula in every tank. It will improve the cetane rating of the fuel and keep the engine cleaner. The improved fuel mileage usually offsets the cost of the additive. You can buy it HERE.



John,

Do you or anyone know good places to buy items 1, 2, 4 and 5? Prices?

Reg

P. S. I love my 01 F350 but some days I wish I could join others in the 15+ mpg club. Mine is 11.4 (going downhill with a tailwind - just kidding). The price of a 4.10 rear I guess.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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afinepoint, as for item #4 the best price I have seen is from fordpartsnetwork for $189. John and others can guide you on the others.


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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Where do you buy no. 6, I have a factory transmission gage on the truck is it not any good or should it be replaced. What is a pyro boost? I told you I was a novice.

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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The pyro guage measures exhaust gas temperature. The boost gauge measures engine boost level. The factory tranny guage isn't as good as the aftermarket version, so I am told. So, if you're gonna be running hot and hard, towing and/or hauling a lot, you're gonna need these items or sure.........
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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fk,

Do an internet search. Plenty of places sell it.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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http://www.dieselpage.com/additive.htm for the Stanadyne.........
 

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Is there a significant difference between the Stanadyne Performance Formula and Diesel Kleen?

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