Hemi hype
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I didn't mean to start all that. Maybe my expectations were too high when I drove the Dodge but even my son said our 02 5.4 F-150 felt stronger. We also drove an 04 F-150 with the 5.4, it too seemed kind of sluggish compared to the 02 5.4. I guess the old 5.4 made more torque lower down and had less weight to move.
I can't believe how nice the 04 F-150's are, they feel rock solid. Thought my 02 was solid until I drove the 04. I am still not crazy about the 04's look.
I can't believe how nice the 04 F-150's are, they feel rock solid. Thought my 02 was solid until I drove the 04. I am still not crazy about the 04's look.
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Originally Posted by tkondro
I'm not trying to bash any of the trucks, but when FordLariat always mentions (let me stress that, always) that the ford tows the most and that is what makes it such a more capable truck, well he is wrong. And then when I mention to him that the chevy denali tows 10,000 lbs (again which is more than the ford) he changes his story and says it doesn't have any payload. Make up your mind on what you want.
The hemi is going to outperform any Triton 3V motor. I don't care if the "truck" can't tow as much, the hemi engine was the whole topic of this discussion, not the tow rating. So for someone to say that the ford tows more, big deal start a new thread about it then. The hemi has better "performance".
Sorry to those offended.
The hemi is going to outperform any Triton 3V motor. I don't care if the "truck" can't tow as much, the hemi engine was the whole topic of this discussion, not the tow rating. So for someone to say that the ford tows more, big deal start a new thread about it then. The hemi has better "performance".
Sorry to those offended.
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Originally Posted by MountainHound
Yeah. 
The "hemi" can't even tow with a 2-valve Triton V10, let alone the new 3V V10 in the 2005s. 
The "hemi" can't even tow with a 2-valve Triton V10, let alone the new 3V V10 in the 2005s. 
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How many users in this thread don't currently own a Ford truck or plan on buying one anytime soon? Just curious. I see the same users time and time again turning threads into wars that have the same post content as every other thread in this forum. Paul made a legitimate post based on first hand experience, not a magazine article or showroom brochure.
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Originally Posted by Paul Selby
Maybe I have been under a rock but when/why did Dodge quit making the V-10 for the 2500/3500? Seems that would be the only legit comparison, V-10 vs V-10.
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How many users in this thread don't currently own a Ford truck or plan on buying one anytime soon? Just curious. I see the same users time and time again turning threads into wars that have the same post content as every other thread in this forum. Paul made a legitimate post based on first hand experience, not a magazine article or showroom brochure.
I assume you're talking to me, among others. Yes, I do own a Ford, a Super Duty V-10. Although I didn't know owning a Ford was a prerequisite for joining the site. This is the Ford vs. The competition forum, so you ought to expect people who are hoping to dispell some of the myths and rumors that get tossed around in here. My wifes truck is a Hemi Ram, so I have first hand experience as well. Despite what it feels like, I have out run both the old 2V and the new 3V 5.4's with it. No hype, no magazine tests, just fact.
Is the Ford a better truck on the whole? That is arguable as well, and I haven't seen any fact in this forum to prove that it is one way or another.
I assume you're talking to me, among others. Yes, I do own a Ford, a Super Duty V-10. Although I didn't know owning a Ford was a prerequisite for joining the site. This is the Ford vs. The competition forum, so you ought to expect people who are hoping to dispell some of the myths and rumors that get tossed around in here. My wifes truck is a Hemi Ram, so I have first hand experience as well. Despite what it feels like, I have out run both the old 2V and the new 3V 5.4's with it. No hype, no magazine tests, just fact.
Is the Ford a better truck on the whole? That is arguable as well, and I haven't seen any fact in this forum to prove that it is one way or another.
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Originally Posted by Ev2Demon
How many users in this thread don't currently own a Ford truck or plan on buying one anytime soon? Just curious. I see the same users time and time again turning threads into wars that have the same post content as every other thread in this forum. Paul made a legitimate post based on first hand experience, not a magazine article or showroom brochure.
I assume you're talking to me, among others. Yes, I do own a Ford, a Super Duty V-10. Although I didn't know owning a Ford was a prerequisite for joining the site. This is the Ford vs. The competition forum, so you ought to expect people who are hoping to dispell some of the myths and rumors that get tossed around in here. My wifes truck is a Hemi Ram, so I have first hand experience as well. Despite what it feels like, I have out run both the old 2V and the new 3V 5.4's with it. No hype, no magazine tests, just fact.
Is the Ford a better truck on the whole? That is arguable as well, and I haven't seen any fact in this forum to prove that it is one way or another.
I assume you're talking to me, among others. Yes, I do own a Ford, a Super Duty V-10. Although I didn't know owning a Ford was a prerequisite for joining the site. This is the Ford vs. The competition forum, so you ought to expect people who are hoping to dispell some of the myths and rumors that get tossed around in here. My wifes truck is a Hemi Ram, so I have first hand experience as well. Despite what it feels like, I have out run both the old 2V and the new 3V 5.4's with it. No hype, no magazine tests, just fact.
Is the Ford a better truck on the whole? That is arguable as well, and I haven't seen any fact in this forum to prove that it is one way or another.
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Dodge is trying to get sales up by puting HEMI on the engine. A HEMI was a good muscle car engine back in the day. There sales suck so they are coming up with anything they can. I think they need to work on the whole drivetrain the tranny sucks if you pull alot of lite loads (mowers, snowplowers, grass, and salt). The engine gets really bad mileage has no power on the low end. who cares if i have 500 hp and 600 tq when it is made at 8000 rpms how often am i going to be running the engine that fast? not very often!! That's my $.02 worth. Is there anyone out there that agree's with me?
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From: Denton,TX
Originally Posted by tkondro
Sorry it is a truck, sierra denali. They make a denali version for the SUV's as well. Once again, someone writes something without the proper research.
The Denali is a step up from the 1500 and I would imagine that it is comperable to the Chevy 1500 HD which is in a sense a 3/4 ton truck. The 2500 HD is also pretty much a 1 ton SRW truck. Of course you can also buy a 3500 SRW truck as well. GM seems to have more classifications of trucks that fill in the gaps between the Ford and Dodge 1/2, 3/4, 1 ton SRW, and 1 ton dually trucks. It doesn't really make sense to buy what is basically an underrated 3/4 ton truck when you should just buy a 3/4 ton truck to begin with.
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Originally Posted by dhag911
The engine gets really bad mileage has no power on the low end. who cares if i have 500 hp and 600 tq when it is made at 8000 rpms how often am i going to be running the engine that fast? not very often!! That's my $.02 worth. Is there anyone out there that agree's with me?
Also, acording to all the dyno graphs I've seen the Hemi makes at least 325 lb/ft of torque from idle up to it's peak of 375 at 4400. That is only a 50 lb/ft difference from idle to peak. I'd hardly call that no power on the low end.