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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Need electrical help!!

Ok, had my problems with the dash/taillights. For a little while, they were sporadic, and would need some jiggling of the dimmer switch to get the dash lighting to work. Now, they won't work at all. Thinking it was the switch, I replaced it, and found this:



Looks like one of the wire terminals melted the connector. Thus, I thought there was just a bad connection, causing resistance and melting some plastic. So I tried pushing the connector onto the terminal, same results (none).

Will I need a new connector?
If so, where would I find one of these monstrosities?
Anyone have diagrams that could be helpful?

Thanks!

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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More like the wire burned lose from the connector. You can remove the connector with a tool from snap-on. Just crimp it to the wire and insert.

You can get a connector from Ford or a Junk Yard. Make sure you clean the inside hole so the little barbs grab good.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Common problem - the headlight switch overheats and melts the harness socket. The best fix is to replace both the switch and the socket.

You can buy a replacement headlight switch wiring harness from your Ford dealer to replace the melted socket. They are not expensive (less than $20 Canadian about 2 years ago). They are usually a stock item because this is a common problem. You will have to cut out the old socket and solder the new one to the existing harness. Just match the wire colors.

I recommend heat shrink tubing for insulating the solder joints, but tape will do, too. The nice part about replacing the socket is that the repaired harness will be (can be) several inches longer, which makes it easier to reassemble the instrument panel - and for future disassembly.

Good luck with your repair.

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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You don't happen to have a part number, do you?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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cheeck the fuse, iknow what you are thinking but it happend to me. even with a blown fuse i could jiggle the head light switch and get the running and dash lights to work.

It was a bad wire in the back that kept blowing the fuse.

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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by agelder
You don't happen to have a part number, do you?
Nope, sorry. I think my local parts counter guy had it memorized, though.

Cheers,
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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I had that same problem on my 94. I replaced the headlight switch every couple of months till I had a recall repair for some sort of wiring problem. This of course was after I added a backup switch that would allow me to turn on my headlights and get me home.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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ooo... do you have any kind of directions on how to make that backup switch?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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I looked on my factory CD and it lists it as connector C295. I don't think that is the part number but at least it is a good referance. I copied a pic of the pin out for the connector at
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/doug5g

Hopefully it might help also. You might have have to play with the image to make it big enough to read. Or just copy it and open it in "PAINT"

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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agelder - I don't right offhand. I could easily go take a couple pictures and give you the wire colors that I tapped into. I routed the switch into the vent. There wasn't really any air blockage from the switch, and I could easily remove the air director to get to it if my lights died.

Let me know.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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I still think the best fix (after replacing the burnt out switch and connector) is to install relays to switch the headlights. It will take the load off of the main headlight switch, the high beam switch, and the inadequate wiring and connectors.

The simplest relay installation is to intercept the wires going to the headlights in the harness in front of the battery. You can install the relays on the flat panel behind the battery.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 04:25 AM
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weird, I always assumed there _were_ relays. Never even considered that as a fix. Good idea.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Arrrrrrrrggggg!!!!!!

Put in new switch, new harnes... nothing!!!!! Any other ideas on where to look for the problem?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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i guess not
 
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Okay...
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New switch and new connector/harness right?
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Do you get the same results by fiddiling with the dimmer switch as you did before? <BR>
One thing I would do when replacing my switch would be to snap on the connector, then use a small flathead to ensure the individual connections were made, using a small penlight also helps to see if any are misaligned.
<LI>If that still doesn't change anything, inspect the wiring going back into the dash for any broken or "hot spots" (you never know).
<LI>I'd also check all the fuses, just in case.
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If that still doesn't work, I'd get a jumper wire and a test light, then locate which wire coming in is the power wire, then jump it to see which wire going out lights up what. If you don't get anything, or fail to find a power wire, you must have a bad fuse. If you can light up your headlights, but not parking or dash lights, it's got to be something inbetween the switch and the actual lights. Perhaps a connector somewhere.
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Just my two cents, hope some of it is helpful.
 
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