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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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ok yall sorry but i got a "rant"

has anyone ever heard of 351 motor?? NO!!!! its an ENGINE!!!!! a motor is electric an ENGINE is internal combustion!!!!!! MAN how can so many people not know the difference????

second lil rant is there a difference between a bolt and a screw????
YES to be simple a bolt has a flat end and a screw has a point at the end!!!!

ok sorry yall had to read that lil rant but it seams i work with a bunch of morons that dont know the difference!!

im better now i think
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 11:08 PM
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A "moron" here Taz, to tell you you are WRONG !!!!
According to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
motor - a) any of various power units that develop energy and impart motion: as a small compact engine. b) internal combustion engine. esp: a gasoline engine. c) a rotating machine that transforms electrical energy into mechanical energy.

Seems like you got all worked up over nuthin'.

while I'm at it....

moron - 1) a feebleminded person or mental defective. 2) a very stupid person.

I'll stop there.....

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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 11:13 PM
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Taz;
I wanted to clarify...I ain't saying you are a moron. I call them (truck engines) "motors" all the time, and was simply trying to validate my opinion that I was not of the "moron" type.
(The reason I knew you were wrong...I used to think the same thing about motors / engines until I went to the dictionary.)
But, the guys you work with might stil be morons!!
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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>A "moron" here Taz, to tell you you are WRONG !!!!
>According to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
>motor - a) any of various power units that develop energy
>and impart motion: as a small compact engine.

notice wording on the following

b) internal combustion engine. esp: a gasoline engine.

engine not motor

>Seems like you got all worked up over nuthin'.
i do that alot...guess its just me lol
>while I'm at it....
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>moron - 1) a feebleminded person or mental defective. 2) a
>very stupid person.
yup thats who i work with lol
thanx Brian for getting the trusty websters out
 
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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>ok yall sorry but i got a "rant"
>
>has anyone ever heard of 351 motor?? NO!!!! its an
>ENGINE!!!!! a motor is electric an ENGINE is internal
>combustion!!!!!! MAN how can so many people not know the
>difference????

I never thought about it until reading an automotive mechanics textbook where they clearly stated that the proper term for the internal combustion engine is "engine." and that "motor" is the term for and electric motor. I believe this is a precise use of the language, but then common speach typically abuses language all the time. For example, people typically use the term "presently" to mean right now, when the precise definition is "soon." Of course, every modern dictionary will tell me I am wrong because language changes. But why does it change? I think because everyone (I too am guilty at times) is sloppy in their use of language.

Now for a couple of my rants:

Why do they call it a minivan when it really is an overblown, front-wheel-drive station wagion?

Speaking of front-wheel-drive, when did you ever see cowboys driving cattle from in front of the heard? So it should be called front-wheel-pull.

I've got more, but enough for now.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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Beep Beep !

I've never heard of, a heard of cattle.

I've heard of,a HERD of cattle,& that ain't no engine(injun)(indian) talking.

Speaking of pulling,Paul,does your leg feel longer?


This English language can be so easy for some and so diffeicult for others.

I think we could have spelling tests on here once a week.

The ones that would fail are the ones that spell.
Axle as Axel
Gauge as Guage
Solenoid as [five or six other spellings]
Alternator [and three other spellings]


So basically , a Person either wants to learn how to spell correctly and Does [Not dose] or they really don't give a damn if other people
think they're unwilling to learn.Although,typo's are normal.
usually they don't happen over and over again though.


Think of how a bad speller would react if the paycheck they received had the Wrong spelling of their name on it and couldn''t cash it because of that.

Back to the topic,I usually refer to it as, an Engine.

Although, in this world we have these terms describing what we drive:

Alberta Motor Association
Motorized vehicle
Motored down the road.


The proper term of course is Engine,after all,that's what the people who make them, call them.



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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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>5. "RE: names"
>15-Apr-02, 01:01 PM (EST)
>Beep Beep !
>I've never heard of, a heard of cattle.

>I've heard of,a HERD of cattle,& that ain't no engine(injun)(indian) >talking.

>Speaking of pulling,Paul,does your leg feel longer?


>This English language can be so easy for some and so diffeicult for >others.

>I think we could have spelling tests on here once a week.

>The ones that would fail are the ones that spell.
>Axle as Axel
>Gauge as Guage
>Solenoid as
>Alternator


It seems to me, a person whom is finding fault all the time with spelling and other issues, should double-check their own post for correct spelling himself. Now are you going to say you meant to put an "e" in the word difficult on purpose? I'll give you a B-.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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>Beep Beep !
>
>I've never heard of, a heard of cattle.
>
>I've heard of,a HERD of cattle,& that ain't no
>engine(injun)(indian) talking.

A cowboy I'm not; and my spilling is auful (wife always gets rankled about that because she is a teacher).

>Speaking of pulling,Paul,does your leg feel longer?

Say, I do feel a bit taller
>
>This English language can be so easy for some and so
>diffeicult for others.
>
>I think we could have spelling tests on here once a week.
>
No. No. I've enough trouble without going back to school! Anyway, most of the spelling mistakes I have seen here are not so bad that folks misunderstand the message.

But here is an idea that might be worthwhile. Each user could have a spelling rating that gives their spelling score over the last 3 months or 30 messages (or something like that). A big glaring "DUNCE " flashing on the left column would serve to whip a lot of us in shape in a hurry, aye?


>
>Back to the topic,I usually refer to it as, an Engine.
>
>Although, in this world we have these terms describing what
>we drive:
>
>Alberta Motor Association
>Motorized vehicle
>Motored down the road.

Yeah. Popular usage wins out.

Motor Magazine
Motor Trend Magazine

>The proper term of course is Engine,after all,that's
>what the people who make them, call them.

 
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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Now are you going to say you meant to put an "e" in the word difficult on
>purpose? I'll give you a B-.

Actually Steve,You are correct,I did do it on purpose.
Good call,You win the gold star.

After I do stuff like that,I sit back and see who will be the first person to notice it.

Way to go!


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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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All this ranting over whether an engine is a motor.
You guys missed the part about the screw needing a point.
I have lots of boxes of screws which are not pointed. All the way from 4-40 to 1/4-20. And yes I have some 1/4-20 BOLTS also.
And a stove bolt is really a flathead screw. (Not like a flathead v8).
I am too lazy to pull my dictionary, but I classify a screw as needing a screwdriver to turn it, and a bolt as needing a wrench.
But I don't know about those little things that have Allen or Torx heads, I have seen them listed both ways. Hmmm. Guess I am just curious enough I WILL pull the dictionary......

Well, that was useless...dictionary gives about the same definition for both. Exception - a bolt does not have to have threads, a screw does.
(Door bolt for example).

Anyway, I also tend to call a combustion power plant an engine, and an electric power device a motor. However, I also work with electronic "engines" and software "engines", and unfortunately we are all too familiar with political engines(machines). This could go on forever.


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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 15-Apr-02 AT 02:35&nbsp;PM (EST)]A Steam Engine <> Motor Boat<> Steam Boat uses a ......

I know,let's ask Robert Fulton,...he would know.

DEF: Engine

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=engine

Def : Motor

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=motor

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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Yes, I am the one who posted Webster's definitions...but, the more I think about it the more confusing it becomes...


You have "outboard motors" - I've never heard it refered to as an "outboard engine". "motorcycles" not "enginecycles". Anybody EVER hear of a "chainsaw motor"? Nope, it's always "chainsaw engine". Jet engines, not jet motors. What about the "siege engines" used to pound castles long ago. I bet those guys never yelled...."Quick! load up the siege motor !!!" Lawn mowers ALWAYS have engines. Who ever changed the oil in their lawnmower "motor". Heck, that sounds so goofy it's funny. I'm sure there are others.....
Well, I guess I'll motor on home in my truck today.....or will I engine on home ????

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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one other thing....who ever got so fed up with something they threw in the towel and said..."AH, bolt it" ???
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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The screw vs bolt theory doesn't hold water either.

I have seen a lot of bolts that had points on them. They are VERY common with OEM stuff. The points help guide the bolt into the hole... or help 'find' the hole. (I can only imagine the jokes coming out of this thread )

If I had to 'guess' at the technical differences, I would say that a screw is meant to 'cut' or 'make its own' threads as it is going in. A bolt tends to have precisely machined threads that mate to a nut or a threaded hole of some sort.
 
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