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As an owner of a 4.30 geared 6 speed V10 truck, I'm also interested in supercharging mine for more power towing and cruising. What are my options other then Whipple? Pros - cons?
As an owner of a 4.30 geared 6 speed V10 truck, I'm also interested in supercharging mine for more power towing and cruising. What are my options other then Whipple? Pros - cons?
Have you done the Headers and Y pipe yet? Just finished that with Borla stuff on my 04' and it made a significant improvement to the midrange and top end. I have the accufab ctb-9698 throttle body coming this week which from all accounts i've read is a excellent mod too.
To answer your original q, kenne bell is another manufacturer of a s/c for the v10. I've installed one on a v10 before that was lifted like rottendogs with I believe the same size tires. It helped quite a bit.
I would like to add that a s/c on a truck that is lifted that much with that big of a tire is not going to respond the same as say my truck with the 4.30 gears, 6spd, and 285 tires. I can understand rottendogs' perspective based on this but, I bet most trucks will see a larger performance gain....
I'm not saying you won't get a signifigant HP and performance increase with a supercharger. I'm saying it is an expensive way to go. My excursion by no means is slow... for a 8000+ pound 4x4 truck! It has the KB charger with 8lb boost, borla headers & catback, 42# Ford Racing injectors, 235lph fuel pump, 5.13 gears, and an assortment of custom chips.
I don't mean to discourage any one from getting a supercharger. I just think they should not believe all the hype and unreasonable expectations.
I have a 2000 F-250 V 10 Auto 4X4 with a Paxton Novi 2000. I have had a bunch of tuning issues and made a lot of upgrades, but that is what being a gearhead is all about. Overall I love this supercharger and I can't stand driving other trucks without a supercharger. My gas mileage is about 13.0 on the highway and 11.0 city and towing is almost to easy ( My brakes had to be upgraded also). My other mods are 28 Lb injectors, Borla headers and Y pipe, no cat, Flowmaster catback, Cyclone fan, ***** tune, and most recently a diesel intercooler which was a bolt in and dropped my inlet temps from about 130f to ambient. I supercharged this truck at about 5000 miles and it now has 41,000 miles. The only issues so far have been a blown spark plug at 36,000 miles and warped rotors twice. By the way the Timesert product works great at fixing spark plug threads. I need to Dyno the truck again because of my recent mods, but at the track it ran 14.85 in the 1/4 before the intercooler.
Never seen a 400+ hp Diesel. Just heard the fantasies of those that think they are on every street corner. I really got mine to help give me grunt when I tow. Besides, never had a whole lot of problems blowing off Diesels before the Charger.
How much do you usually tow with your truck? I've been thinking about a SC for a while now, but am not sure. I pull anywhere from 12 to 15,000lbs regularly doing hotshot work part time, and my V10 pulls great with no problems. I'd just like a little extra kick at times. Also, is it safe to put a Whipple or a Kenny Belle unit on a higher mileage engine that's in good shape? My only experience with superchargers has been on race engines and some aircraft engines, so I am looking for all the info I can get.
The paxton super charger has the best warranty (3 years), thats what I have found out threw the research i've done. I also would like to put one on, but I cannot afford it right now.
How much do you usually tow with your truck? I've been thinking about a SC for a while now, but am not sure. I pull anywhere from 12 to 15,000lbs regularly doing hotshot work part time, and my V10 pulls great with no problems. I'd just like a little extra kick at times. Also, is it safe to put a Whipple or a Kenny Belle unit on a higher mileage engine that's in good shape? My only experience with superchargers has been on race engines and some aircraft engines, so I am looking for all the info I can get.
Actually at the hitch, about 8900 - 9500. I am usually loaded with about 600-700 more in the box. I wouldn't hesitate to put it on a higher mileage motor. As you know, all it is, is an air compressor, it does no harm at all to your internals. It does give a very nice kick for towing. Very well worth the money and still cheaper than a Diesel.
Check this out, My Buddy and I have IDENTICAL trucks except, mines the V10 with the 4sp auto and his is the 6.0 with the 5sp auto. We raced from about a 10 mph rolling start and it was just about dead even. We both had to let off at about 80 to keep from straightening out a curve. I know that we both had our trucks to the floor. All my Buddies (with Diesels) are telling me that after they install a programmer, they are being able to light the tires up from a dead stop and that they feel like its a totally different truck. If half of what they say is true, I believe they would walk off and leave me sitting in their black smoke. I think that it kinda sucks because for the same 350 dollars, I dont get but about 30HP compared to their 90+. Bear in mind, my truck is BONE STOCK. 2004, V10, 250, FX4, 4SP AUTO, CC, with 305/70/16's BFG MT'S. Here is a simple question for som of ya'll out there, Bone stock 6.0 with a good programmer, Bone stock v10 with a supercharger, Who's gonna win?
Change your gears to 4.10's or higher, get chipped, good exhaust work, and you'll still smoke the 6.0 with the chip. A supercharger would just be the icing on the cake.
Check this out, My Buddy and I have IDENTICAL trucks except, mines the V10 with the 4sp auto and his is the 6.0 with the 5sp auto. We raced from about a 10 mph rolling start and it was just about dead even. We both had to let off at about 80 to keep from straightening out a curve. I know that we both had our trucks to the floor. All my Buddies (with Diesels) are telling me that after they install a programmer, they are being able to light the tires up from a dead stop and that they feel like its a totally different truck. If half of what they say is true, I believe they would walk off and leave me sitting in their black smoke. I think that it kinda sucks because for the same 350 dollars, I dont get but about 30HP compared to their 90+. Bear in mind, my truck is BONE STOCK. 2004, V10, 250, FX4, 4SP AUTO, CC, with 305/70/16's BFG MT'S. Here is a simple question for som of ya'll out there, Bone stock 6.0 with a good programmer, Bone stock v10 with a supercharger, Who's gonna win?
Well, I would have to argue with that. Our 2003 6.0L 4X4 auto makes 385 rwhp / 684 rwtq and runs 8.9 @ 75mph in the 1/8th. That is with a programer, exhaust and air filter. I don't think a V10 will make that kind of power, but I could be wrong.
Well, I would have to argue with that. Our 2003 6.0L 4X4 auto makes 385 rwhp / 684 rwtq and runs 8.9 @ 75mph in the 1/8th. That is with a programer, exhaust and air filter. I don't think a V10 will make that kind of power, but I could be wrong.
Your Not Wrong! My point exactly... It is much cheaper to modify the diesel for big HP. You can't get that kind of RWHP and RWTQ from a V10 even if it is supercharged. I don't with mine and I've never seen any one post dyno numbers from their supercharged V10.... other than me! Any one who thinks they are going to get anywhere close to those numbers with a V10 with just a chip, lower gears and a better exhaust is just flat wrong.
Once again I don't want to appear to be a cheerleader for the diesel guys... they have too many the way it is! I don't like the diesel for other reasons. I don't like the way it sounds, the way it smells, the way it smokes or the way it looks... but I do respect the huge power and torque increases that can be had over stock with an excellent $=HP investment.