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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Here's the skinny, I want to see what you guys have experienced. I purchased an AIRRAID intake setup for, well too much cash in my opinion. I was recently @ the FORD dealer getting some warranty work done. The motor guy happened to walk by and notice I had the AIRRAID system. He said GET RID OF IT! The reasons are as follows:
-The intake is not enclosed, although it seals with weatherstripping on the hood it has a tendency to suck hot air in anyway, defeating the purpose of the intercooler. The tech claims he hooked a thermometer to the stock system and to the AIRRAID system, ran it down the street and found the air coming nto the motor was 45 degrees hotter!!!!!! It makes sense if you asked me. He suggested I take it back and purchase a replacement that fits in the stock box.
-The oils from the aftermarket filter will eventually ruin the MAF (mass airflow sensor) due to the oil buildup. What he says does make sense, to a point.

I am confused and angry at the same time. I looked all over the net and found replacement filters, yet they are obviously oiled filters, so what the hell gives?????? I never asked him what filter he recommends, yet I have run into real "COOKES" in my tenure as a mechanic. <!How do I know if this guy is full of ***** or not.> I would think these companies researched and tested these "open" filter systems before they sold them!!!!!!!!!!! I want some opinions.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Maybe a FRAM!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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in short, he is not accurate in his assesment, i also have an airaid intake and it works better than the stock setup. a couple things i can reccomend is to do a zoodad on the truck(cut open the grill frame in front of the air intake), i also took the whole bottom of the airbox out and opened up the end that leads into the fender well. more air, even if it is warm, is better than not enough air. because remember an engine is merely a complex air pump, more air in, more air out= more power
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Talking I understand, but..........

I know the airraid is an improvement in airflow. That I know. The part I am concerned about is the MAF sensor. How long have some of you had an "oil" type filter in your vehicle and how has this affected any runnings of the motor? What this cooke I mean tech said is probable and has validity, although farfetched it is possible. As you all know some guys will go great lengths to be a know-it-all. Any more opinions I welcome. Hey YETI anything to add?????
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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I've had a K&N filter on my '89 Mustang for almost 3 years now and never had any problem with the MAF. I think if there was a problem with oil getting on the MAF, they wouldn't make the filter that way anymore.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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Yea, i dont buy a word he said I would like to see the test performed myself as far as the temperature. There are manny cars out there with 100-200 thousand miles with k&n and many other brands of oiled filters. If its so crappy, how do many dyno test show gains of approx 10-12 hp?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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I have had my AIRRAID for over 25,000 mile with no problems. F250 superduty 5.4. I haven't even had to clean it get.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Talking Diesels Only Not Gas Owners

The tech is referring only to DIESELS my friends. Trust me I find it hard to swallow as well. I would like some feedback from DIESEL (6.0 preferably) owners who have an airaid, not gas owners. Diesels by far induct much much harder than any gas motor. This is fact. A diesel @ full throttle will suck you hand into the tube. That is why I think he says the oil finds it's way in there so readily
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Next time when you ask a question let people know what kind of model truck you are talking about. Can't read minds.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
Here's the skinny, I want to see what you guys have experienced. I purchased an AIRRAID intake setup for, well too much cash in my opinion. I was recently @ the FORD dealer getting some warranty work done. The motor guy happened to walk by and notice I had the AIRRAID system. He said GET RID OF IT! The reasons are as follows:
-The intake is not enclosed, although it seals with weatherstripping on the hood it has a tendency to suck hot air in anyway, defeating the purpose of the intercooler. The tech claims he hooked a thermometer to the stock system and to the AIRRAID system, ran it down the street and found the air coming nto the motor was 45 degrees hotter!!!!!! It makes sense if you asked me. He suggested I take it back and purchase a replacement that fits in the stock box.
-The oils from the aftermarket filter will eventually ruin the MAF (mass airflow sensor) due to the oil buildup. What he says does make sense, to a point.

I am confused and angry at the same time. I looked all over the net and found replacement filters, yet they are obviously oiled filters, so what the hell gives?????? I never asked him what filter he recommends, yet I have run into real "COOKES" in my tenure as a mechanic. How do I know if this guy is full of ***** or not. I would think these companies researched and tested these "open" filter systems before they sold them!!!!!!!!!!! I want some opinions.

Take a look at my gallery and you will see a way to cure this issue.
IMO it is not an issue, however if the tech thinks it is........well, this fixes it.
I built it when the truck was new. Still running
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Problems occur with the MAF when aftermarked filters are over oiled. Use the oil sparingly and allow the oil to soak in before using the filter.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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Some people tend to over oil their filter and that can cause a problem. Do 6.0s have mafs? My7.3 doesn't. Why would there be a maf on a deisel?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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no, diesels dont have MAF(mass air flow) sensors, they do have MAP(manifold air pressure) sensors, they are to different things. plus diesels vent the crank case gasses(which are full of oil) right into the intake before the turbo, thats why the inside of your charge tubes and intercooler and coated in oil, so the oil would not be any concern on a diesel
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Yeah the guy said MAF for sure. Maybe he is a cooke. Hey Tim Lamkin, how do I get into your gallery.I am new to this board. Thanks to all.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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to see gallary, click on user name in posting and then click on user gallary. Fill in your signature, by clicking on user cp at the top, and listing your truck and mods at a minimum. The reason gassers replied is because you stated mass air flow sensor, and because the guy just doesnt know what he is talking about, neither diesel nor gas. There is no way a "cool" air intake was increasing intake air temperature by 45 degrees in a fair comparison of same truck, same outside temp, etc, etc.
 
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