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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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need timing chain?

I have a 78 f350 and went to the woods this past weekend and broke the timing chain. I was entering in a huge mud hole and it just quit. found all of the broken pieces to the chian and the sprackets still look in tacted. what should I look for in getting another chain set and what should I time it in at for lugging around in the woods. any help on this subject and any related to this would be much appreciated. its a 460 but dont know what year (does it matter)
 

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Dont waste your time and effort in the woods- the whole set(both gears and chain) is about $20 at AutoZone. The year shouldn't matter, as the same set fits a 68-87 460 motor(and even big block Lincoln 430-462). I prefer single rollers myself because the double roller chains give up a lot of beefiness to make way for the second chain, especially in higher torquing engines(like the 460). Best of luck to ya!
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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Also, to eliminate the chain problem altogether, you could run a gear drive for your timing. I have gear driven timing in my mud toy that has a 460 and I love it. I think it sounds cool(really loud whine) and I no longer have to worry about the chain jumping teeth or breaking. It requires minor machining of the timing cover, but other than is a good idea. Just a thought.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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If you use one from a 68-71 the cam timing is not so retarded and will increase power...same cost 72-newer chains have 8 degrees of retard built in for emmissions sake.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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I am pretty sure that the chains &gears themselves are the same regardless of year- it is the factory cam itself that varies. The key on the cam gear is in a different spot of the rotation in earlier models than in newer models- an aftermarket cam would obliviate this problem....
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:15 AM
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Nope, the gears have the keyway in a different position... Pictures have been posted that show this... I'd dig it up, but, I'm only half awake and can't work the search...
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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ok thanks for clearin that up- Then the dumbas* at Autozone misinformed me b/c he said that the same kit fit all yrs 460
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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87 and later gears are straight up and they are roller chains.
 
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Also double roller chains will last longer do the the reduced friction on the teeth of the gears. Depending on the year chain set and who makes them you can see the difference in deg's. Comp Cams has a few articles covering this on their website as well. Remember Autozone is about getting as much money as possible from you reguardless of the amount of trips you have to make to their stores. Also the large quanity of parts they carry no one in there is an expert on all cars.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Thanks for the help. Considering very seriously about the gear driven for the strength and durability. Would that be the best route?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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Gear drive does have a minor edge in the strength and durability, but (I dont know how true this is) also pay a penalty in robbing power to turn the gears and Idler. Info came from Comp Cams when we were getting a custom roller cam ground for a 460 project motor in the shop. As for timing it in for bottom end grunt, run it straight up or 4d advanced
 
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