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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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starter or flywheel problem?

I have a 1997 E-350 with 220,000 mile on it. Last Saturday it would not start. (just click, click, click whenever the key was turned) So I towed it to the mechanic where the starter was replaced with a remanufactured starter from CarQuest.

The Van started fine after that, but the very next day, I got that awful loud screech when I tried to start (like when you turn the key when the engine is running). Sometimes it would do this 4-5 times before starting. It kept doing this occasionally so I took it back and explained the starter must be bad because it never did this before the starter was replaced. Well he put in another CarQuest starter and it is having the same problem... Sometimes starts but sometimes screeches.

So now he says I need a new flywheel.

Why then didn't I have this problem (screeching not starting) with the first starter?
Should I try another starter (Ford Brand) first before replacing the flywheel?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Sounds like somehow the teeth on the flexplate (automatic transmission equivalent of the flywheel) got torn up. Not sure how that would've happened, but if it's the right starter and the teeth on the starter gear are OK, then it just about has to be the flexplate. Not cool when it happens - requires dropping the tranny to replace.

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Isaac
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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It is either what was mentioned in the previous post, or the starter may be loose, and not fully making contact.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Well I just about thought the problem went away... the van started normally about 20 times in a row. but then yesterday the screeching and not starting happened again 4 times.

the starter doesn't appear loose, the mounting and bolts are tight. I've ordered a flex plate and a starter from Ford. If the problem continues I'll first try another starter, and if that doesn't fix it I'll take it into the shop and have the flex plate replaced. This is only a $50 part but about six hours of shop time I'm told.

When I get this problem fixed I'll report back here.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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I know ford does'nt require shims as gm products but this sound like a shim problem. maby the actuator is flying out to far or not far enough.....
 
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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my 1999 E150 does the same thing, however, it only happens once in a blue moon. i've also noticed that it will happen more often in very hot weather, which blows my theory 'cause you live in Alaska. because it only happens seldomly, i'm just praying it lasts. i know, i know, i should get it fixed.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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yank the inspection plate on the tranny and look at the flywheel teeth
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stazi64
I know ford does'nt require shims as gm products but this sound like a shim problem. maby the actuator is flying out to far or not far enough.....
""Mustang 5.0 yank the inspection plate on the tranny and look at the flywheel teeth

equium my 1999 E150 does the same thing, however, it only happens once in a blue moon. i've also noticed that it will happen more often in very hot weather, which blows my theory 'cause you live in Alaska. because it only happens seldomly, i'm just praying it lasts. i know, i know, i should get it fixed.""

Thanks for the suggestions. I put in the third starter (Ford brand this time) myself already. This starter works better then the previous two but it still screeches and won't start about every 10th start. So for the time being I'm just learning to live with this problem.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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problem solved

Originally Posted by Mustang 5.0
yank the inspection plate on the tranny and look at the flywheel teeth

I finally got around to having the flexplate replaced last month. there were about 10 teeth missing in one spot.

starts fine now
 
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